Got a Beef?

got a beef

Have you got a beef? Be it guns, shootings, Christmas crowds or anything you want to get off your chest. This is the place to let it all hang out.


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83 Responses to Got a Beef?

  1. I wonder if this little guy will start saying, “I will give you succccccch a tickle” now. The news medias spent too much prime time discussing Elmo’s voice. That’s my beef! Now I hear that Elmo has lost his voice.

  2. Well G Whizz… this is a genuine beef of mine.

    Why did the Government take God out of the schools but will allow Guns in?
    It doesn’t make any sense does it? I guess it boils down to the almighty dollar taking predecence over the Almighty.

    And while we are on religion, I have another beef. Why will a person comment on a blog in the image of a Christian and do their preaching only to post a follow up comment and make snide insults against a fellow contributor? What is it that the Good Book conveys? “For you will be treated as you treat others. The standard you use in judging is the standard by which you will be judged.”

    Old dogs and even new puppies will do it every time…blow hot air out of the wrong end. Someday it is going to back up on them and ‘hernia’ here I come.

  3. Another big beef…

    It seems that no matter which way we turn, Casey Anthony will not go away. Her movie is due to be aired soon after the New Year and then there will be another book. When I hear certains words or quips, it takes me back to the child murderer. How about, “%^$# will someone let me finish?” and “waste, pure waste” and then there is “What do you mean, you don’t know what my involvement is?” The word, “absolutely” always make me think of Lee Anthony and then that excited utterance of Cindy’s, “It smells like there’s been a dead body in the damn car.”

    How could anyone forget Baez in his opening statement, “Look what you’ve done” or was it “What have you done??” Real originals!

  4. Vicky says:

    Here’s one of my beefs. I have a huge issue with gun rights activists accepting the deaths of thousands, not to mention 20 children in a school, as what I would describe as collateral damage as long as they are able to keep their semi-automatic weapons. And then for one of their leaders to proclaim that they should be able to keep their assault rifles, because they are fun to shoot. Good grief!

  5. Vicky says:

    One more before I go to work it really pisses me off when I have to wait more than 30 minutes for a scheduled appointment. If I showed up late for the same appointment, I would probably be told I would have to reschedule. I think I should be able to deduct my wait time from a bill, if it exceeds more than 15 minutes..

  6. Newbie says:

    I’m already tired of hearing how tighter gun laws need to be although I agree such is needed. The problem is you can pass as many laws as you want but without funds needed for that enforcement the law is just affecting the honest gun owners.. I also am worn in saying we need to raise the salary of teachers, police officers and firemen. Also, I’m tired of social workers trying to keep up with an outrageous case load who are expected to keep watch on children in danger Our priorities in our society are up side down. And, I will add, I’m worn on hearing things can be improved if we let God back into our schools. While I want this badly I think we need God back in our homes. And I’m tired of hearing about people’s rights….look at the situation with the Phelps group. Oh, speaking of the Phelps, if you have time read Addicted to Hate which can be found on the internet. It is the truth about the Phelps family !.

  7. Newbie~~Bravo!! I just wish your were a politician sitting in the legislator. Maybe if there were more women with more common sense voting for change things would take a turn for the better. I will add that maybe teachers should get a bit of extra in their paychecks and call it ‘danger pay’. Prison guards receive danger pay. I am not familiar with the Phelps family so will google that name. I agree that God should be in the homes as well as the schools and it may help to put him in some blogs where we discuss important issues taking place in the country. One blog just seemed to be a “ho hum” until I went there and tried to instill in some that the situation in Newtown was serious. Several people were sincere and participated. It was easy to tell they really cared!! Two people out of spite because they do not care for me completely ignored my informative contributions and ceased commenting until I packed up and left. I did not get even as much as ‘thank you’ from the owner of that blog nor did that person express any sympathy for those darling children and brave teachers who lost their lives. Do I hate these people? Not at all. I feel sorry for them that they could not put their feelings for me aside and express sincere emotions for the families in Newtown. I am classed as an ‘unwelcome’ intruder at that blog now because I refuse to constantly display hate for George Zimmerman and badmouth his attorney. Z is innocent until proven guilty by a jury of his peers and should not be tried in a ‘biased’ blog. This is why we have laws in place to seek justice for the victim and let the defendant have a fair trial. These are some of my beefs.

  8. cali patti says:

    Newbie & Vicky, I do agree. I agree the automatic & semi-automatic and ALL assault weapons should be banned. Yes it will take years to find and remove all those weapons but it would get done. Yes, responsible gun owners will have their guns “gone” first but they will not be in jail for owning them. Other gun owners who’s guns are found at a later date will be. Plus NEW weapons would not be sold.
    Mostly, get rid of the clips that hold large number of rounds . Those are ridiculous. That is how rifle manufacturer’s got around the semi-auto laws. Make a single shot with quick fire and a massive clip, works almost as “well.”
    Most police and teachers are paid well in the state I live in.

  9. cali patti says:

    Snoop, I do not understand the mentality (of the people) of being treated the way you are at times at a different site.
    You have been gracious with me, calling me out, sort of, when I was off the wall or crossed a line. I noticed that is how you treat everyone. Your sense of humor and the the manner in which you tease … does take a wee bit of intelligence sometimes to understand. Not a rocket scientist just smarter than a first grader, I’ve seen where you made a funny with ?? and the person literally did NOT GET IT & thought they were being attacked. OMG, really I thought when I was reading the comments. Either the person was looking for a reason to fight or was stupid. I hope they were stupid which to me is better than being mean.

  10. Cali ~~them thar ??’s are question marks. If I put them thar things in a comment to someone, I was questioning them on a certain thing that they stated. I will tell you one thing and that is there are those who have no sense of the ‘ho ho’. If more people would lighten up a bit and give a few good belly laughs once in awhile , this world would be a better place. I can be very serious when the situation calls for it. I am not going to constantly bathe in doom and gloom 24/7. If anyone wants Misery for company, just don’t bother to invite me.

    BTW, I only threatened you with a stick of wood a couple times. You be lucky it was not my weapon of choice, the chain saw.

  11. cali patti says:

    Oop’s sorry! Thank you for explaining that to me. The question marks were because I did not want to say the persons name or I did not remember the person’s name. It wasn’t that long ago that I was reading the comments and there is no reason to call a person out personally on their lack of humor or stupidity.

  12. Cali~~no problem. Some of them should have a question mark by their screen name. Some individuals are using up to 3 and 4 different names. I think one should try LiverSpots and be done with it.

  13. Amber from Maryland says:


    How many church members believe God executed his judgement by murdering six year olds? Which Congress people believe the answer to school violence is to arm principals with attack weapons?

    Some of the news today features people who make Jodi Arias and Casey Anthony seem like normal good citizens.

  14. cali patti says:

    Amber, Yes it is ridiculous.

    Snoop, I followed the Anonymous group and another hacker called the xxxxx about 2 years ago. It is amazing, good or bad, what these people can do. It is also amazing to me that for the most part they control themselves.
    There is a discussion out there about what they do and is it harmful in their support of certain beliefs. The xxxxx is not a fan of the group Anonymous and he is really good. I just am not intelligent enough to understand what they are saying most of the time.

    Anonymous group can and will do damage to the Westboro group. It will be as if a plague hit them.
    This action is something the government cannot do. The Supreme court has ruled in favor of the Westboro church’s rights.

  15. cali patti says:

    Hackers have put out a call for a human circle to go around the funerals if these people show up from Westboro. So far they have not come but it isn’t the weekend yet, either.
    Even the twitter accts of church members have been hacked. WOW!
    Maybe I impress to easily.

  16. Amber from Maryland says:

    Hi Cali

    On general principles I might not like anonymous hacking groups. However, now that they are attacking people who want to harm parents, friends, and community members mourning a terrible tragedy, I am broadening my perspective to include more understanding of the merits of their anonymous actions. I think anonymous groups are entitled to as many first amendment rights as Westboro Church members. Please keep us posted.

  17. Cali and Amber~~I x’d out the letters for those hackers to be on the safe side. I do not want them messing with the Snoop. . j/k. I think it is best to keep them nameless if they do both harm and good. They must be quite intelligent to hack. I cannot believe the supreme court would sanction the Westboro church members since they are a hate group. Do they also sanction the KKK? What a crazy world we live in.

  18. It almost looks like there may be blood shed if Westboro shows up at Newtown. This was at the link I posted upthread…

    Anonymous also claims to have successfully filed for a death certificate for Phelps-Roper, blocked her social security number and changed her desktop background to gay porn.

    Via its its @YourAnonNews account, Anonomyous also claimed responsibility for the fact that Westboro Baptist Church’s website was taken down

  19. Vicky says:

    I have seen the Westboro group in action. They are a disgrace to the concept of Christianity! Their distorted interpretation of the Bible is no excuse for stomping all over other people. I hope Anonymous can accomplish what others have failed to be able to accomplish through legal means. I don’t forsee any violence. They are getting a dose of the psychological warfare they have visited upon thousands. Having Shirley Phelps declared legally dead is a major inconvenience for her, but not a death threat. She is an incredibly hateful woman and needs a dose of humility. At the very least, she needs to keep her mouth closed. As does Phelps junior who has taken over leadership of the group. Their newest targets, besides Sandy Hook, for the upcoming months are Kansas churches that allow women to be ministers and/or welcome gay members?
    I personally think they should be charged with child abuse for the way they use and brainwash their very young children. There is nothing more despicable than to listen to 4 year olds scream out messages of hate and intolerance.

  20. Folks, I am seriously thinking of penning a book this winter about my blogging experiences. I have loads of information to feed into the book. Here is a sample of the book jacket….woot woot… Maybe you can come up with some good ideas. I should let you each write a chapter…make it a community affair…Feel free to suggest any other titles… “The Bald and the Beautiful” “Bald Babs Blogs and Bullchit” “The Old Backwoods Canadian”

  21. Vicky~~remember the mess in Ireland between the Orange and the Green or Mc’s and Mac’s… they had their children out in the streets throwing rocks and screaming out names.

  22. Vicky says:

    I have a few stories to tell. 🙂
    To borrow a line from Charles Dickens…”it was the best of times, It was the worst of times…”

    I should name it Blingers~SS

  23. Vicky~~I often wonder what became of all the earlier people who used to comment. If they became ill and passed on, we would never know. Leatherman is continuing to have a good audience. My stats have really soared and many are spending an ample amount of time to read anyway. I guess they would rather not comment and just reach me thru google for updates. The Laura Jessome news brought quite a few Canadians, especially Maritimers. I also have many from Australia but cant understand why.

  24. Vicky says:

    I sure do Snoopy. So much harm has been done by people who refuse to abide by the Golden Rule. Then again, perhaps many are willing to sew that which they reap in order to satisfy their own personal agendas. I don’t know what makes people like Fred Phelps and his followers (mostly family) tick. I think their hatred has overpowered rational thinking. Sadly, it has not occurred to them that God does not weigh sin. As “Christians” the way that they treat others is not what God intended when he sent His Son into the world. They seem to have completely missed the message of Grace that should be the cornerstone of their belief system. I have often wondered if Fred Phelps is a self loathing, closet homosexual. Just because he married and had children, does not mean that he never questioned his sexuality.

  25. Vicky says:

    Snoopy, I often read blogs without commenting. Australia? I remember a lovely young woman who used to drop in at your old blog and at Sister’s from time to time. Now those were some interesting days. 🙂

  26. Vicky~~I think you hit the nail on the head. When I hear of anyone always condemning gays and keep saying they are straight, I wonder if they are unsure of their own sexuality. I am just learning about the Phelps here today. I knew of a hate group awhile ago but paid little attention. Weren’t they supposed to show up at a funeral in Florida but changed their mind? Somehow that rings a bell.

  27. Vicky~~I know exactly who you mean from down under …she was a holy terror at times. lol

  28. Vicky says:

    I have another beef I want to share that has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but really upsets me. Medicare and Medicaid fraud. It costs tax payers millions of dollars each year, and often goes undetected. There was a recent case where I live. The doctor and his billing manager were involved in billing for services they did not render. The total amount was in excess of $100,000 over several years. Fat chance the government will ever recover the money, but at least the two of them will never be able to work for any organization that receives federal funding. Don’t know yet if they will go to prison, but they will be placed on the OIG list.

  29. Vicky says:

    Yep Snoops, they were.. They often threaten to show up for events outside of Kansas but don’t show. I think their intention is to draw attention to themselves more than anything. The Patriot Guard deals with them when they show up at military funerals, and would have probably organized themselves to show up in New Town. Now that is something to see..When a soldier killed in action is buried at Ft. Leavenworth, the Patriot is always there. Local residents also line the drive into the fort holding flags. It is really incredible.. The Phelps clan is completely overshadowed and receives no media attention here.

  30. Vicky~~whenever I have visits to specalists, doctors offices or had surgery, sometimes I get a letter from MSI, and I have to sign a paper saying I was seen by such and such and on a certain date and mailing it back. In fact I have gotten several over the years.

    WordPress seems to be acting up and one of my comments flew the coop…

  31. Vicky~~so the billing manager got his/herself in doo doo also. Interesting!!!

  32. Vicky says:

    Medicare and Medicaid conduct routine audits on health care providers, but it sometimes takes time to identify fraud.. For example, if a patient has regularly scheduled appointments, an is a no show, it is easy for someone to claim that person was seen. That same person could be asked if they were seen on a particular date, and might not remember they missed that appointment.. Most cases of billing fraud are caught eventually, but recovering the money is nearly impossible..

  33. Vicky says:

    Absolutely Snoopy.. The person who submits the bill certifies that the service has been provided.. If they are completely unaware, they aren’t held accountable, but is the knowingly submit a false claim, they are in as much trouble as the provider.
    The way they are usually caught is when one claim is questioned and found to be fraudulent. At that point, the auditors look at every single claim submitted.

  34. Newbie says:

    Regarding the Phelps, “Addicted to Hate” is a full story of Fred Phelps and what happened to his wife and children. It is an interesting read to say the least.
    Vicky, you are right in their wanting attention. Fred formed the church basically to get around paying taxes. The only members were his children (the majority of the “church” membership now is family He also sent his children out to sell candy in support of “the church” when in reality he was using the money to get through law school. The Addicted to Hate gives a true picture of all this.
    There is so much to be told of his antics in gaining attention that I wouldn’t remember all of them or have the time to try to explain the situations. Talking of what is happening now, many times the Phelps will say they are going to be at xxxx and they have no intention of going there. I am sure they will be at the two Topeka police officers funerals. The Patriot Guards will definitely be there and they make additional U.S. flags available for by standers. I have thought for some time that some sniper would take out Fred but it didn’t happen and I know of no attempts to do it. I do know of a town (can’t remember the name right now) that filled our parking spots in the area of a funeral and way beyond. Phelps would have had to walk a very long way thru a hostile crowd. They went home instead of picketing. I know of another incident where vehicles were parked behind the Phelps vehicles at their motel and the police were just not able to respond until after the funeral. People are figuring out ways to spoil their bull.
    Vicky, Dr. Voth was called in by the Topeka Board of Education or a principal….can’t remember exactly which. Two of the sons would not take off their ski caps for gym and it was found it was because Fred had shaved their heads because of something they had done not to his liking. He said many times there was evidence of the boys having been thrashed and had bruises. Of course social workers were also involved but no action was taken because of being taken into court.
    I lived in Topeka for almost twenty years and saw Phelps’ nasty signs more than I care to. I won’t even go into how revolting their signs were and are and to see young children being raised in that mess and standing holding those signs…..heart wrenching.

    Read Addicted to Hate which can be found on the internet. It all is true. I hate the Phelps and hope they have to return to earth as a gay person. Oh, Michael Moore did get the best of Fred.

  35. Vicky says:

    Newbie, I am going to find the book today. I usually don’t comment on a person’s physical appearance, but IMO, Fred Phelps looks as evil on the outside as he does on the inside. He is a monster and sadly, so are several members of his family. Did you know one of his daughters is an attorney for DCF? Now that is ironic isn’t it?

  36. cali patti says:

    I read and don’t know if it true, one of Fred’s sons was trying to get into Toronto and was declined entry. In time he proved he no longer worked with his Father and was actually working for a group that was fighting his family. This son now resides in Canada. .

  37. Newbie says:

    Vicky, the book is on the internet. The Topeka Capitol Journal hired a young man to do a detailed piece on Fred and family. If memory serves me right, Fred filed suit to stop any of it being published and the whole material was submitted into evidence in the court trial. Topeka Journal was not going to use the material anyway and the length of it would have had to go in installments anyway.. I can’t remember whether the suit was filed against the Topeka paper or against the author. Needless to say, we were over joyed when the info appeared on the internet.
    Vicky, I believe all of his children are attorneys. Well, maybe the one in California is not. That is one of the problems. A person or organization breathes wrong the Phelps will have them in court. I know they had the Topeka courts tied up to the max at one time. You know he was disbarred. Oh, something else, it is said if you have a business and the owner is gay or has a gay employee, donate continually to Phelps church and he will not picket you.
    Can you imagine working with his daughter at DCF !!!

  38. Newbie says:

    You know Vicky complains about her blingers. I want to complain about my brain and fingers. I leave out information to where what I am saying just doesn’t jive. I am known for it in my family.

    By the bye, we got snow last night !!!!

  39. cali patti says:

    A big Whoopeee to Snoopy & Newbie on your snow. I’m Jealous.

    This site has the book “Addicted To Hate” to d/L free.

  40. cali patti says:

    I’ve read the Intro & chap. 1… easy reading & interesting.

  41. Newbie says:

    cali, thank you sooo much. I have to laugh because I was so wrapped up that I didn’t even think of putting a link up…lol.

    I think Vicki got more snow her way but don’t know if they got the rain prior to the snow. We had quite a rain and the snow fell on ice. All in all, we had quite a few cancellations including school today.

  42. Newbie says:

    Good heavens, it wasn’t Phelps who filed in Court but the author of the material. Shows how well my memory serves me….lol.

  43. cali patti says:

    We had snow here before, 1989 I think. Some years the hill/mountain behind me wiill have snow for a week or so. Had heavy hail/ice 2 yrs ago that if looked at sideways and before it melted, would’ve passed for snow. ha

  44. margaret says:

    My biggest beef at this time is a quotation, ” guns don’t kill people, people kill people. ” Duh?? So why do people need military guns and ammunition?? That is the dumbest quote I have ever heard. Another one is why so many people have been given permission to carry concealed weapons that they can use any time someone ticks them off. I am sick to death of the justice system tip toeing around a criminal, so as not to violate their rights,but ignoring the rights of the victim. My Father-in-law was a true country gentleman and I loved him dearly. One day he talked me into going fishing, so this newly married city kid {18 years old} was excited and ready to go. I did know his fishing meant wading out waist deep in a pond with just regular clothing. So here I am up to my waist in dark Florida pond water and he slaps the water behind me. I ask why and he informs me that he was hitting at a water moccasin behind me. Well this city giirl did know what a moccasin was and I got myself out of there. He laughed at me later and told me that if God had wanted that snake to bite me, it would have. I told him that God had also given me a brain to use to avoid danger and not to be stupid. That is why It makes me sick with the excuse of insanity being used to cover every criminal action… Thanks all for listening to my rant…. Snoops I love the snowflakes. I never get to see the real thing.. Your new header is woonderful..

  45. cali patti says:

    Newbie, the thanks goes to you for making me aware of the book. I never would have found the book on my own. I’ve wondered how the crazy family began and as disturbing it is to read, it is interesting. Chap.3

  46. Vicky says:

    Well here we are December 21st and so far, no end of the world. Unless I was left behind.. LOL

  47. Vicky says:

    Margaret, I am 100% with you on the “guns don’t kill people” propaganda!

    Newbie, Like Cali, thank you so much for the heads up on “addicted to hate”. I read it last evening and am still snarling my head, and am even more disgusted with Phelps and didn’t think that was possible. He needs to be locked up for the rest of his miserable like. The rest of his family is in some serious need of deprograming, if that is even possible at this point. Their children need to be taken away until such time that their parents promise to leave the emotional abuse (and likely physical abuse) out of their lives.

  48. margaret says:

    Today is my daughters birthday ,I just called to tell her happy birthday before the world ends.. LOL. Now I am off to rtead about the phelps. Thanks for link.

  49. FYI~~ I have closed down the NUFF SAID password protected thread. It has served its purpose and it was set up to give support to Cali who is going thru some difficult issues in the real. (Cali gave me permission to tell you this) Because of the nature of the issues, they had to remain private.

    I apologize to any who could not gain access to NUFF SAID. When PW threads are set up others feel left out and rightfully so. I want to thank the couple of gals who formed our very small group in being there for Cali. I will still be available for Cali via email or phone as I have been in the past.

    I hope you all understand and thank you, Cali Patti.

  50. Margaret~~HAPPY BIRTHDAY to your daughter from the Snoop!! I ate almost a half of one layer of a box of chocolates last night and had two double LOBSTER sandwiches for supper. I was making sure my last meal was someeeeeeee good.

    Well we are in for 30-35mm of rain tomorrow and going up to +10C. Goodbye snow again! I think it is going to turn colder after that so may have an icy Christmas.

  51. Someone knew darn well I could not resist swipiing this from their FB page…

  52. Vicky says:

    I love it!

  53. Newbie says:

    Isn’t that the best !!
    I’ve tried putting a link up to a YouTube video of Michael Moore and Fred. It’s not working for me. If you go to youtube and put in Michael Moore Fred Phelps`you can see Phelps being “run off”.

  54. margaret says:

    Thank you Snoops for my laugh of the day… Snoopy, I have been trying to look at the status of some of the abused and missing children today and I wonder if you can help me out. Remember thedays of Blogger Radio with Simon and Jan, there was a two part show about an Aaliyah Bedwell and her mother Connie. That has bugged me for a long time and on Google one article calls it a hoax and the next one its for real. I have read some of the mothers texts on facebook and reading about the Phelps, brought that back today. Her texts are wild too. Simon and Jan only did the two shows that I can find.and then dropped it. Do you know what has happened there and if it is for real. The latest I can find is that Connies dad is awaiting trial for child molestation and the court still hasn’t given Connie her daughter back. That case just keeps popping up in my head… One last beef, evidently the Jodi A. trial will start on Jan. 7, but do they really have to advertise the fact showing the clip of her singing Silent Night.. I love that song but I have not been able to listen to it this season..

  55. Karen C. says:

    I would put this under your recent Florida post, but this I swiped from HuffPo just now (9:51 pm), and these are gun incidents from all over the country, most in the last 24-48 hours. Truly shocking- These are their linked headlines:

    3 Shot And Killed In Mich… 18-Year-Old Shot Multiple Times, Dies… Man Kills Wife, Teen, Himself… Man Shoots, Kills Own Son… Cops Shoot Teen Dead… Man Gunned Down In Parking Lot… 5 Dead In Spate Of Shootings… 2 Murdered In Philly… 2 Kansas Cops Shot Dead… Shooter Killed… 4 Die In Apparent Murder-Suicide… Ga. Cop Dies From Gunshot… Argument Leads Teen To Shoot Friend… Man Shot To Death… Teen Dies After Being Tied Up, Shot… Man Shot Dead In Street… Drug Deal Leads To Shooting Death… Mother Of 2 Killed In Road Rage Shooting… Man Shoots, Kills Intruder… 1 Killed In Coney Island… Man Dies From Gunshot Wounds… Cops Investigate Gun Death… Shooting Victim’s Body Found On Bike Trail… Man Charged With Shooting Own Brother Dead… Man Dies After Being Shot In Chest… Body Of Shooting Victim Found In Pickup… Teen Arrested For Robbery Shooting Death… Man Carrying 2-Year-Old Son Shot Dead… Man Fatally Shot Near Home… Parolee Dies In Shooting… 1 Killed In Buffalo Shooting… Man Shot Dead In Apartment Complex… Street Gun Battle Kills Grandma Bystander… Man, Woman Dead In Apparent Murder-Suicide… Woman Shot Dead By Intruder… 14-Year-Old Arrested Over Fatal Gun Attack… Man Found Shot Dead In Parking Lot… Woman Shot In Face By Ex-Boyfriend… 1 Woman, 3 Men Shot Dead… 2 Die In Attempted Robbery… Army Reservist Shot To Death In Alley… Man Shot To Death In Bodega… 2 Shot Dead In Burned House… Man Shot During Break-In… Man Fatally Shot… 20-Year-Old Gunned Down… Man Shoots Self During Police Pursuit… 1 Killed In Baltimore Shooting… Cops ID Shooting Victim… 60-Year-Old Man Shot Dead… Shot Man’s Body Found In Vacant House…. Woman Shot And Killed Outside Her Home… Shooting Victim Was ‘Trying To Turn Life Around’… Slain Shooting Victim Found In Street…. Driving Altercation Leads To Shooting, 1 Dies… 3-Year-Old Dies In Accidental Shooting… Man Turns Self In After Allegedly Shooting Wife… Man Shot Dead Outside Home… 3 Slain In Separate New Orleans Shootings… Cops Investigate Shooting Death… Man Shot Dead In Ohio… Teen Shot To Death… Man Dies After Being Shot Multiple Times… Man Charged Over Son’s Shooting Death… Cops Find 2 Men Shot Dead… 1 Dies In Shooting… Man Charged Over Gun Killing… 1 Shot Dead In Confrontation… Man Charged With Murder Over Shooting… Motel-Owner Shot And Killed… Husband Shoots Estranged Wife Dead… Suspect Arrested Over Deputy’s Shooting Death… Police Probe Fatal Shooting… Cops Kill 2 Suspects In 3 Shooting Deaths… Man Killed Fighting Back Against Robber… Man Killed In Home Invasion…. Nightclub Shooting Kills 1… Child Brain Dead After Drive By Shooting… Man Charged Over Shooting Of Ex-Wife… Body Found In Vacant House… Teen Fatally Shot…”

  56. Margaret~~I certainly remember the days of Blog Radio. I used to drive everyone nuts on the chat when I was tele prompting. When someone asked Dave a question ( he was a guest panelist) I would type out the answer in chat for him to read.

    I am not familiar with the case you mentioned. I will do some sleuthing for info and if successful will post it here. Maybe someone else here knows of the case.

  57. Karen~~Oh my God! I heard that guns enthusiasts were rushing out and buying up assault rifles and just about anything that went bang. It looks like more are using than buying. Are all these murders and suicides normal around Christmas? I had not paid much attention to gun laws etc in the US before the Zimmerman case and the Stand Your Ground. I was more into Henkel duct tape.

    Two policemen were shot and killed near a Pharmacy where one of the gals in here gets her prescriptions. I think it is in one of her comments.

    Speaking of Zimmerman….this just came in my mail alerts

    Bodyguards sue George Zimmerman, Mark O’Mara,0,5700275.story

  58. Margaret~~I am doing a search for you. Here is a blog radio show about Casey before the verdict was brought down…

    [edit] Margaret, there are so many listed, I will be here until eternity… Here is a link to all the radio shows…well over 400 of them… Maybe you will have better luck than me. I looked at over 100 titles of the shows.

  59. Newbie says:

    Karen, the two police officers were killed in Topeka Ks. Come to find out a man had tried to cash a check at customer service and was denied. He went back to his car in the parking lot of the grocery/pharmacy store where at least two other friends were. They stayed in the lot and after awhile security guard called the police reporting a suspicious car (they were drinking). All the two officers did was start walking up to the car and one of the guys just shot them….both officers shot in the head. It was my pharmacy and I was told they were drunk and on drugs…..whatever… of the officers was 29 years old.
    I wonder how many shootings there were in the 24/48 period that the Huffington Post didn’t find.
    I am not against guns yet am beginning to think our society has changed and maybe it is time for “the right to arms” be reconsidered. I know the clips and magzines and drums need to be outlawed but how do you collect those that are already out there. And anytime they talk about changing gun laws, sales of guns and ammo really go up.

  60. Newbie~~thanks for explaining about the officers being killed. I didn’t know the full story.

  61. Margaret~~I found this video on youtube but everything else dates back to 2009

    Aaliyahs Law 2012

  62. LindaNewYork says:

    Goodmorning Snoopy & All!
    Well, one of my beefs this season is the hoopla about “Happy Holidays vs Merry Christmas”.


    And wishing all a Happy & Healthy New Year!

  63. LindaNewYork says:

    Great reading here. That Westboro group is horrid. While I have been in tears, literally, this past week regarding the children and teachers that were killed in Connecticut, when I heard this hate group was supposedly going to protest at one of the funerals, I was seriously considering jumping in my car and joining others who would form a line to keep them away from the family.

  64. cali patti says:

    Morning, Merry Christmas and happy holidays to all.

    Headed back (online) to finish reading the book.

  65. Hi LindaNewYork and Cali Patti~~A Very Merry Christmas to both of you!!

  66. cali patti says:

    Other hackers have joined the attack on Westboro church.

    When Cosmo was able to enter major institutions last year that bothered me that a 15 yr. old in Southern California was able to do what he did. Those institutions should have thanked him. So much better him than an Asian or middle eastern country. Yes what he did was wrong but to me it was also right. If he behaves his probation, follows the law, (I’m not sure he is the one online today) I hope our government hires him after he graduates.

    There are good hackers out there that “patrol” the systems watching what criminal type hackers are doing. They do not break into your system and steal anything from us. They do stop many attacks that we will never know about. They also attack weak systems often AFTER warning the system where their weakness’s are. When companies choose to ignore their warnings, well you can read about the outcomes.
    Yes there are plenty of horrible hackers that steal from everyday people. The hackers doing this to Westboro are not that type of hacker.

    Just wanted to toss a sideline conversation into this conversation. Something else to think about.

  67. This is my attire in Facebook…lol

  68. Cali~~some of these hackers end up with good paying jobs once they are caught. I hope the hackers are able to run the Westboro church and the Phelps right off the map. Thanks for posting the link and all the good info. You seem to me well up on these Phelps and I am just in the learning process. Nothing surprises me anymore.

  69. cali patti says:

    Oh no, Newbie and possibly Vicky are the ones that have the knowledge about Westboro. I know a wee bit about the Hackers. A very little wee bit. There has been disagreement between several hackers or groups for several years now that I am not going to get into here.

    I am a fence rider when it comes to ‘their” differing points of view. I’ve agreed with both sides at different times during my life. I enjoy the intelligence of these hackers. I am very pleased that the ones I’ve been able to read about seem to have the principles of democracy as the basic right they support.

    I even considered asking them for help with the other woman in my husbands life. I did not. It was a desperate stupid idea which I think overstepped my fan membership rights. Ha ha,.

  70. Newbie says:

    I wish I didn’t know that much about Phelps. I can remember when my dad talked about Fred having the kids out so late selling candy. The candy sellers would be out at eleven in the evening, sometimes midnight on school nights. Fred would send them into hospitality rooms and bars and seminar groups etc anywhere there was a group. Okay, I’m going to stop there. My words can not express the horror of the Phelps. The Addicted to Hate pretty well covers it. I will say, when you see the very very young kids with those signs it is past disturbing.

  71. cali patti says:

    Newbie, several years ago I saw a young Westboro sign holder on a news report. Yes it turned my stomach hearing that ugliness come out of a mouth so young.

  72. Vicky says:

    I remember well the first time I saw a very young member of the Phelps family holding one of those signs. I was leaving a meeting at the Capitol building in Topeka in 1995.. The child couldn’t have been more than 5 or 6 years old. There were several other school age kids along with Fred and who I now know to be Shirley and several other adult members of the family. On that particular day, they were stomping on the American flag. There were a God Hates Jews and God Hates Homosexuals signs thrown in for good measure. But, the focus that day seemed to be God hates America. I remember being completely taken aback by the scene, but once over my anger and shock, while driving home it occurred to me how ironic it was that they would hate and disrespect one of the only countries in the world where they would be afforded free speech.
    I’ve lost track of the number of times I have seen them in Topeka since that time. But, the times I have seen them here in Leavenworth have pissed me off the most. Along with funerals, trey protest our high school quite frequently because of the gay and lesbian program there, and because Melissa Ethridge graduated from there and provides scholarships for students interested in the arts.
    I have a friend that won a small legal battle with them. they tried to have their swimming pool and expenses associated with it exempt from taxes – saying it was installed for the purpose of baptisms. Once told they would be unable to use it for any other purposes, they gave up on that idea, but they did take it all the way through the appeals process. LOL

  73. LindaNewYork says:

    I know I am waaaaaay behind, but I have just finished reading “Addicted to Hate”. What a disgusting man. And amazing that only 3 of his 13 children “escaped”. I do wonder about them being brought up in that household, without any other real means of what it is like to live in a normal family. If you are taught hate from the day you were born, is it your fault for living your life still within that hate and carry that in your heart? It is like in the fanatical Muslim countries, where they are taught from the day they are born to hate American and Jews? Even though I wonder about these questions, I have a hard time not “hating” this disgusting family. Reading around, they are ALL dispicable. Phelps, Sr. is the one who is going to burn in hell. Pure evil.

  74. Hey LindaNewYork~~ It is hard to comprehend that one man can cause so much hate…the sick SOB.

  75. margaret says:

    I am so sick of seeing a Kardashien on tv, computer, magazine every time I open. Who cares what they do with their life every day.Enough already!!!!!!

  76. Margaret~~God Bless ya! You should get yourself a big bull horn and scream loud and clear… you can always put a smile on my face lol…xo

  77. Newbie says:

    I’m surprised the Phelps haven’t taken on the Kardashiens… I hate to say it but that I wouldn’t mind except for the young kids in their family being exposed to the K’s. Yuck.

    LindaFromNewYork, the information in Addicted to Hate is not exaggerated ! Scary ! It is hard to challenge what they do as they are mainly attorneys and quite smart. The best thing that has happened is that do not usually get any press in our area.

  78. mystical pippin says:

    OMG Margaret. I can’t believe you mentioned the Bedwell case. I don’t remember how I initially came across that story – I saw the video of daughter telling her mom that the dad was molesting her. I couldn’t believe the cops were against the mother – since then I’ve tried to find the outcome or even just any news at all about it and I can’t. I never heard anything about a hoax but it does seem to have disappeared off the radar. Let me know if you ever find out anything.

  79. mystical pippin says:

    Oh and Snoops. I would love to do the artwork for the cover – think about it.

  80. margaret says:


    Thought you could get a laugh out of foghorn taking baez place.. LOL

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