We will bring you home, Amber

New Glasgow News ~ Police continue investigations
Published on October 30, 2011
Quote:
Police are still investigating both the case of missing person Amber Kirwan and the shooting death of Ed Phalen in Trenton.

Const. Ken MacDonald said they have been receiving some information from hunters, but as yet have not been able to come to the bottom of the case. They are still appealing to hunters and others to report anything they see.
End of Quote

[Nan11 put together the following-thanks for all the hard work, Nan]

Amber Kirwan was reported missing by her parents at 5:00 p.m. on Sunday, October 9, 2011. The following search ensued and continues. She has not been found.

Sunday, October 9, 2011:
☛ News of Amber’s disappearance spread via Facebook, Twitter, and news outlets.

Monday, October 10, 2011:
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☛ Family; friends; dozens of volunteers; the police; firefighters; ground search and rescue—all conducted an extensive ground search of the area around Dooly’s on Archimedes Street.
☛ At this point, no buildings were searched on the inside.
☛ Small boats searched in the East River.

Tuesday, October 11, 2011:
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☛ Police ‘patroled’–going door to door–checking buses; looking in bus shelters and dumpsters; talking to employees of Dooly’s and other ‘local’ businesses, including taxi companies; visiting local neighbourhoods and speaking with family and friends.
☛ Police brought in their canine and major crime unit to conduct building searches.
☛ Police ‘widened the perimeter of their search’ to vacant buildings on the outskirts of the town.
☛ New Glasgow Police Canine unit and Ekko search the former Tibbett’s Paint Factory building on Glass Street, in Trenton, N.S.
☛ Police viewed video tapes collected from local businesses in the area, as well as homeowners.

Wednesday, October 12, 2011:
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☛ Command Centre was set up and the perimeter of the search was again expanded.
☛ Police called in extra ‘recruits.’
☛ Ground search and rescue crews searched ‘near’ the Trenton Connector; the Hillside area; further into Trenton; and in ‘wooded’ areas such as Fraser’s Mountain, Stellarton, and Pictou Landing.
☛ New Glasgow Fire Department ‘boat’, RCMP ‘boat’; and ground search and rescue members in ‘kayaks’ searched waterways, including the East River in Abercrombie, which runs through the centre of town. (A Zodiac rescue boat and three kayaks were seen.)
☛ The expanded search encompassed an area of 18 square kilometres of woods and fields.
☛ Police removed ‘black objects’ (which looked like shoes) from a ‘grassy area’ near downtown New Glasgow. (See link 10 for Thursday for confirmation of this.)
Const. Ken MacDonald confirms ‘several’ items, including clothing have been discovered during ‘the search. The items are being sent to forensic experts.
☛ Police confirm ‘questioning’ of Amber’s boyfriend. They state this is ‘typical’. Mr. Campbell offered his own opinion on whether he is considered a “person of interest”.
☛ Maggie confirmed to New Glasgow News that police are still contacting her and other friends to check out facts about the evening, and have been ‘good’ to answer her calls regarding any questions she has about ‘internet rumours’.

Thursday, October 13, 2011:
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☛ RCMP’s major crime unit joined forces with the New Glasgow major crime unit.
☛ Police continued to analyze the evidence, and had a ‘briefing’ on the case.

Friday, October 14, 2011:
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☛ No new ‘developments.’ reported.
☛ New Glasgow’s Major Crime Unit along with the assistance of the RCMP continued their investigation.

Saturday, October 15, 2011:
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☛ K-9 unit spotted in the Heathbell Road in Lyon’s Brook (near Scotch Hill), searching a ‘wooded area’, known for its ATV trails.
☛ One RCMP officer stayed stationed at the end of a private woods road Saturday Evening in this area.
☛ RCMP helicopter flew over Heathbell many times.
☛ (Quote from CBC link 12) “In a press release, New Glasgow police said ‘items of interest’ had been found and were being examined by forensic services.”

Sunday, October 16, 2011:
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☛ Beginning Sunday morning, ground search and rescue volunteers conducted an ‘evidentiary’ search and remained in the Heathbell Road (Scotch Hill) area throughout the day.
☛ RCMP helicopter flew over both Heathbell and Pictou Landing many times.
☛ A command centre was set up on the Hidden Cove Road, near the Big Gut Bridge.
☛ RCMP divers were in the waters near the Big Gut Bridge
☛ Ground search and rescue teams walked the shoreline and wooded area looking for evidence.

Monday, October 17, 2011:
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☛ Search and Rescue teams complete the search of the Heathbell area.
☛ These teams now focused on the Pictou Landing area.
☛ A ground search of wooded areas in Pictou Landing. (near the home of Amber), was conducted.
☛ A ground search of wooded areas in Pictou Landing near the Big Gut Bridge was conducted.
☛ Police investigation also focused on following-up on tips and information; and collecting possible items of interest provided by the public.

Tuesday, October 18, 2011:
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☛ RCMP divers resumed their search of water near the Big Gut Bridge.
☛ Police continued to follow up on other evidence and tips.

Wednesday, October 19, 2011:
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☛ RCMP dive team was back in the water at Big Gut Bridge in Pictou Landing.

Thursday, October 20, 2011:
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☛ RCMP dive team again continued to search the water in the Big Gut Bridge area.
☛ (Quote from Metro News at link.) “Several “items of interest” have been recovered in the PAST WEEK. MacDonald said people have called police to report items found on their property and investigators and forensic teams are analyzing them.”

Friday, October 21, 2011:
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☛ Video tape of Amber leaving Dooly’s was released, as well as stills of her talking on a cell phone.

Saturday, October 22, 2011:
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☛ Search intensified.
☛ Police went door-to-door in the north end of the town, as well as locations throughout Pictou County.
☛ A helicopter did air searches in Pictou County.

Sunday, October 23, 2011:
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☛ Police continued going door to door in the north end of town; as well as locations throughout Pictou County.
☛ A helicopter continued doing air searches of Pictou County.

Monday, October 24, 2011:
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☛ Police had ‘briefings’.
☛ Police confirmed ‘more tips’ came in due to the release of the video.

Tuesday, October 25, 2011:
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☛ Police continued trying to locate people who were at Dooly’s the night Amber disappeared.
☛ Police reassured that the investigation has not stalled, in spite of the absence of ground searches.
☛ Police sought information on who was ‘inside’ Dooly’s the night Amber disappeared. They want to talk to anyone who saw Amber before, during, or after the surveillance video.
☛ Police advised they are awaiting the forensic reports (from Ottawa), on ‘evidence’ gathered (including clothing), during the early days of the massive ground search. It could arrive any day.
A shooting occurred on Mechanic Street in Trenton, NS—an area to which a ‘tip’ had previously led the police on the search for Amber (See Link 26.)

Wednesday, October 26, 2011:
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☛ After weaving back and forth, police finally confirm that they are ‘not ruling out’ a connection between the murder of Edward Phalen and the disappearance of Amber Kirwan, stating it’s simply too early.

Thursday, October 27, 2011:
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☛ Police requested hunters to be on the look-out for anything ‘out-of-place’ or ‘suspicious’.
☛ Const. MacDonald advised that it is imperative that the public give any tips to only the police or Crimestoppers.
☛ Police advised ‘tips’ are still coming in on Amber’s case, and work on it has not slowed down.
☛ Police advised there has been no scaling back of resources.

Friday, October 28, 2011:
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☛ Police stated there have been no new developments in Amber’s case.

Saturday, October 29, 2011:
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☛ Police again stated that there have been no new developments in Amber’s case.

Sunday, October 30, 2011:
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☛ Const. Ken MacDonald advised that they have received information from hunters, but as yet have not been able to come to the bottom of the case.
☛ Police requested hunters to continue to be aware.

Monday, October 31, 2011:
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☛ Quote from link: “Police Const. Ken MacDonald said yesterday investigators and its K-9 unit were out again over the weekend searching different areas of Pictou County.” No further info was given.

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98 Responses to We will bring you home, Amber

  1. Sherry says:

    Its like she just vanished…She and Mason make an adorable couple. I can’t fathom that he would hurt her but I know that anything is possible. I’m praying for her soon return to home safe and sound.

  2. Sherry ~~we must keep the faith until we learn otherwise. Elizabeth Smart’s father never gave up hope and his prayers were answered.

    Amber and Mason started dating when they were just kids. Watching that video, like you, I also cannot imagine him harming her in any way either. Time passes and things change, sometimes not always for the better. I know that the New Glasgow PD and the RCMP are putting in a lot of man hours to try and solve this case. Now they have the extra burden on their shoulders with the homicide of Ed Phalen. I hope tomorrow nite being Halloween, it will be peaceful in Pictou County. They certainly do not need any more problems to deal with.

  3. nan11 says:

    Oh, Snoops: That video makes me cry. I can’t see straight right now. That beautiful, kind, loving, woman-child–gone–just gone. I want to make my own ‘sign’; get on a bus heading for New Glasgow; and start my own ‘protest’ in front of the New Glasgow Police Department.

    By law enforcement’s own admission, we know ‘this is out of character for her’. Believe me, if they could find ‘anything’, any crumb of a reason, to suggest otherwise–they would make sure that got out there. (We had a case in my area where there wasn’t even a crumb, but they used the absence of one to ‘work’ for them. How do I know this? The ‘victim’ got herself out and told the truth of her own story. The ‘press’ carried it.)

    Instead, we have a boyfriend who did what after he waited one minute and forty seconds for her? By his own words, we know that he immediately sensed that something was wrong.

    Okay. What did he do? Who was he with? What happened between the hours of 1:45 a.m. on Sunday morning, October 9, 2011; and, 5:00 p.m. Sunday evening, October 9, 2011.

    Those 16 hours were crucial.

    We can only ‘hope’ that the events which occurred during these hours have been investigated to the fullest extend of the law–and that no-one was spared from being questioned, no matter who they are, or to whom they are related.

    I want to believe that Amber is alive as much as anyone. However, the ‘fact’ remains that they have found ‘articles of clothing’ which were sent to a forensic lab in Ottawa. What the ‘articles’ were has not been released, but Const. MacDonald (of the New Glasgow Police Force) would not have put that out there if he felt there was no connection to Amber’s case.

    The ‘fact’ remains that, as of 1:45 a.m. this morning, we entered into the 23rd day without a single sign of an ‘alive’ 19 year old, Amber Kirwan.

    It sickens me to say that; it sickens me to see this turning into an orchestrated ‘love fest’ for ‘the boy’. I know that as human beings, we need to keep ‘hope’ alive. But at what cost? And we must surely ask–are those that are trying so hard to keep this ‘hope’ alive, only trying because they want to ‘make it easier’ for some that might have answers to Amber’s whereabouts?

    At the very least, we have a 20 year old ‘man’ who cared so little for his live-in girlfriend that he waited only one minute and 40 seconds for her that evening.

    This fact alone, imo, is unconscionable and does not constitute the ‘applause’ he is receiving around these blogs and forums.

    Amber is the victim here. Not her ‘boyfriend’, and not her ‘female friends’. Amber deserves to be found.

    My Opinion Only.

  4. Nova Scotia seems like such an idyllic setting. Too bad crime reaches every nook, cranny, and corner of the earth. I sure hope Amber is found safe and sound.

  5. nan11 says:

    Marinade Dave: Yes, indeedy, crime reaches everywhere. None of us is spared.

    I ‘hope’ your ‘hope’ for Amber comes true. Personally, I do not expect to hear that Amber is alive and well and living in the ‘bright lights’ of the big ‘TO’. (My rose colored glasses aren’t working too good right at this moment.)

    This young woman ‘disappeared’ without so much as her purse and a change of clothing. The clothing she was wearing, including her shoes, were found strewn about town and in outlying areas.

    Before anyone jumps and says this is not true, I ask how many believe that a constable with the New Glasgow police force would issue a statement to the effect that they are awaiting results of ‘forensics’ in connection with Amber’s case, if this were not true?

    I pray for Amber every night, (and sometimes all day). I light candles and walk her route often on the ‘Google’ map. I want her back home–alive; so that she may reach her goals and enjoy the pleasures of life; so that she may hold her kitten and be allowed to grow up.

    But I fear this is only a ‘pipe dream’. I fear that those who harmed this gentle soul may escape the punishment they so richly deserve.

    MOO

  6. kevin says:

    you have a lot of valid points Nan11, but the way the LE talks they have squat and are looking for any little break.
    We can never give up hope until something tells us to.

  7. Kevin ~~I am always checking for updates and so is Nan11 and they will be posted here. We must keep this case alive and not let it end up as another one of the hundreds of cold cases. I am praying there will be a break in this case soon. We have an abducter and possibly a murderer out there and they must be caught. Amber may be being held against her will or God forbid, her remains are hidden somewhere.

  8. FYI~~Please note that the post has been updated to include times lines in this case- compliments of Nan11.

  9. Kevin says:

    I must compliment you on the work your doing ,I agree we must keep this case alive and hope for a break. I was wondering all the places that were searched how close together are they in distance and is it possible to be at all the places in the time frame of 1:45 am to 5 pm

  10. Kevin~~if we are in a small way helping to bring Amber home, it is well worth the effort. Thank you for your kind words.

    When this first went down, I had a feeling that Amber may not even be in the province. If she was abducted by a stranger, he/she had an almost 16 hour head start before 911 was called to report her missing. It even crossed my mind that she may be in Montreal or a large city. Young girls have been snatched off the street and forced to work in prostitution against their will.

    I know divers searched off the Big Gut bridge handy to where Amber and Mason lived together in an apartment. They say the river under that bridge has a very strong under current. The divers were searching for quite a few days.

    Immediately after LE rec’d the call that Amber was missing, they searched all along the route from Dooly’s to Big Al’s. It was a couple days later that a black shoe was found and they are unsure if they missed seeing it or it was planted there later to throw LE off their trail.

    The radio frequencies are very quiet tonight. I know they are still working on these two cases, Amber and Ed Phalen. I am not allowed to put anything on this blog that I hear on the scanner.

  11. nan11 says:

    Kevin: I’ve been Google maping tonight, and I would say the answer to your question is a resounding ‘yes’!

    They say they searched an area of 18 square kilometers . The farthest search that they gave a ‘hint’ of was the Heathbell Road and the Scotch Hill Road. Those two roads come to a corner, and according to Google, the distance from Dooly’s to this corner is 16.151 kilometers. Many of the search areas are much closer: for example–from Dooly’s to the Big Gut Bridge is 5.543 kilometers.

    So, I think they expanded much further than just the locations they gave us.

    I haven’t got my map presentable yet. I need to recheck the distances and a few other things–but as soon as I finish it, I’ll post it so we can all take a look.

  12. nan11 says:

    Kevin: Oops, I should have said that that distance is as the crow flies. But still, you can see that it is really not that far at all.

    I would say they could have been all finished by 4:00 a.m. or 5:00 a.m. Lots of time to get back home and catch a few hours sleep.

  13. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I don’t know if this is good news or not. Notice that it is being reported in ‘The Truro Daily News’. Unless my eyes are failing me–(and they might be)–I cannot find it in ‘The New Glasgow News’.

    Public statement by police, parents about Amber Kiwan’s disappearance to be made Tuesday
    Published on October 31, 2011
    Quote:
    A public statement will be made on Tuesday about missing teenager Amber Kirwan.
    New Glasgow Police Service stated in a media release on Monday night that police and Kirwan’s parents will release a public statement about the 19-year-old’s disappearance this afternoon.

    End of Quote

    At first I thought: “Well, it is about time!” However, my mouth is a little dry right now.

    Which way do you think it is going to go?

  14. nan11 says:

    Snoops: The following link is the only write-up I can find published on the New Glasgow/Pictou County newspaper site published today concerning Amber. I suppose I’m the only one that finds this strange, but it is really bothering me.

    New Glasgow News ~ Volunteer centre in missing case moves to new location
    Published on October 31, 2011
    Quote:
    Const. Ken MacDonald with the New Glasgow Police says investigation is continuing into both Kirwan’s disappearance and an unrelated shooting death of Ed Phalen that occurred last week in Trenton.

    In relation to the Kirwan missing person case, he said police have received some new tips from hunters who have been in the woods and reported suspicious activity or items to them.
    End of Quote

    The rest of the article is about Mariea Leil Bowser–close friend of Mason’s mother; and, in fact, even there on the night the dear boy was born–and her ribbons and her successful charities, which are now suddenly for the Kirwans. In the beginning, they were for the Kirwans and Mason. Mysteriously, they have dropped Mason’s name; however, I hope that anyone who truly wants to ‘give’ to the Kirwans, and only to the Kirwans, checks this out–I think they might be surprised.

    It is my opinion that this ‘charity’ is a bigger scam the Caylee Anthony Foudation for Missing Children was.

    Prayers for Amber! Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ

  15. Well Nan11, it could go a few ways. Amber’s parents may have heard from her and she is safe in another province. One other way is that the clothes found have been identified as Amber’s and they are now treating the case as a homicide and not a missing person. A hunter may have found her remains. I would like to think it is the first one I mentioned.

  16. If Amber’s remains were found, the PD would privately tell the parents and then it would be released to the news outlets. Since Amber’s parents and the police make the announcement together, it indicates to me that the parents have heard from Amber. I cannot see the parents being present if they announce that they are treating this case as a homicide now.

  17. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this!

    Well, my chin will hit the floor if Amber’s parents have heard from her. However, it would not be the first time that my chin hit the floor–at least this time it will be from happiness.

    I do agree with you.

    They wouldn’t just be trying to pull the wool over our eyes, would they? I hope it’s not something like–they received a phone call and she is happy and well in Toronto–I’m not likely to believe that.

    I can’t remember how the police here in my home area made the announcement about the lady that they said had just ‘run off’, (but I don’t think the family was present.) That lady faced two more weeks of being raped repeatedly before she climbed through a basement window and flagged down a passing vehicle to take her to the police station. (In March, in a t-shirt and ladies underware.)

    I’m so uneasy. (And tomorrow is my busy day–I’m liable to be late with the news.) Have you ever noticed that interesting things often happen on Tuesday’s?

    Oh, prayers for you sweet Amber. Maybe you are on your way home. Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ

  18. Nan11~~if the Truro newspaper got their wording right, the police along with Amber’s parents are going to make a public statement. Therefore, they are going to let us in on some information. If this was going to be a press conference, I can see the parents and the PD pleading for help in finding Amber. This is going to be a Public Announcement and that makes a big difference in what we should hear.

  19. nan11 says:

    Snoops: LOL I was just ready to close out the evening with ‘positive’ thoughts.

    Pleading for help? Well, imo, they should have done that a a few weeks ago. Still, it’s never too late to try.

    I’m just really fed-up with their ‘consideration’ of her boyfriend–for a while there, it seemed to me that they cared more for him than for her.

    Someone needs to care for Amber. It time.

    I care, Amber. Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ

  20. kevin says:

    Well it sounds like to me if the police are going to be there with Ambers parents its only to control what they say. I no as a parent who lost a child that I was involved right from the start because I wanted to no where my daughter was and not sit at home and do nothing. There is something very peculiar going on and I pray it is good news.

  21. kevin says:

    did you ever read the site formspring and if so did you get to see the person known as ampthachamp. It might be my opinion but I kinda found this guy praying on all the girls, but what struck me funny was that he was annoying Amber as she has said.
    My opinion but I find this creepy.

  22. nan11 says:

    Kevin: Here is something from earlier this morning on today’s ‘public statement.’ It almost seems anticlimactic at this point, imo–but, still, I am glad to see them finally making an effort on behalf of their beautiful daughter.

    I must say that I am with you in feeling that something very peculiar is uderlying Amber’s case. I have never heard of that site you mentioned. I’m going to look it up to see what you mean.

    News 95.7 ~ Missing woman’s parents to make public appeal
    News 95.7 StaffNov 01, 2011 05:23:24 AM
    Quoteed and Snipped:
    The parents of a missing Pictou County woman will speak to the public today, for the first time since her disappearance.
    Her parents will speak to reporters today outside New Glasgow Police headquarters.
    Cst. Ken MacDonald tells Metro Halifax Donald and Marjorie Kirwan will be appealing to anyone with information to come forward.

    End of Quote

  23. nan11 says:

    Snoops: The ‘press conference’ with Amber’s parents will be at 1:00 p.m. Atlantic time.

    CBC News ~ Amber Kirwan’s parents to hold news conference
    Posted: Nov 1, 2011 7:18 AM AT ~ Last Updated: Nov 1, 2011 11:10 AM AT
    Quote:
    Donald and Marjorie Kirwan will comment on the disappearance of their daughter Amber Kirwan at a news conference at New Glasgow Police Service office at 1 p.m. They will be joined by New Glasgow police Const. Ken Macdonald.

    The news conference will be livestreamed.
    End of Quote

    I doubt if I’ll be able to catch it, (I’m already runing late–and; dang; I can’t watch CBC videos. (Maybe ATV will carry something, as well. One can hope.)

    Anyway–I might be desperate to hear your recap. 😆

  24. [this comment was transferred here from previous post on Amber]

    me says:

    November 1, 2011 at 11:11 am (Edit)

    I have yet to post on here,as i dont own a computer and only have a couple questions..did anyone take notice to the fact the SHOOTING in Springhill was MECHANIC street as well. i am from ng as well and im going to tel you this has me super spooked..last night was plain horrific!!! I guess its coming down to the fact its been 3 weeks for Amber and its only going to be by the grace of god and some miracle that she comes back alive…i pray she does..but really though, the cops need to be giving more info, or do they just not have any..covering for their own? i saw those “rumors ” as well but i doubt it, they are trained to protect and serve the public, its a choice to enter into LE and crooked cops per say are the last thing ng residents have to worry about..whats next? not trusting the cops that respond to an emergency, or an ambulance driver…people people we have to trust sometimes, or what else are we going to do? reject safety or help until the “one who can be trusted” is available..even if it means our lives?? i mean really..some people sure have vivid imaginations..

    Me, I heard about the shooting at Mechanic St in Trenton but am not familar with any in Springhill. I have not read any facts to make us wary of putting our trust in law enforcement, paramedics etc. I discourage people from putting any stock in ‘rumors’ which I consider idle gossip. ~ SS

  25. Amber’s parents make plea for her safe return… When they put the video up, I will post it here. In the meantime here is a link to the news conference and a still pic of the parents with police…

    http://www.ngnews.ca/News/Local/2011-11-01/article-2792413/Parents-make-plea-for-Amber-Kirwans-safe-return/1

  26. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Well, I missed it; and, of course, the video doesn’t work for me. Oh, well. I haven’t given up all hope of maybe seeing clips from it on the CTV news at 6:00 tonight.

    Here is a link for a write-up from the CBC. It has a little bit larger picture than the NG News. Gosh, they don’t looks so good. (imho)
    CBC News ~ Amber Kirwan’s parents plead for public’s help
    Posted: Nov 1, 2011 7:18 AM AT ~ Last Updated: Nov 1, 2011 3:01 PM AT
    Quote:
    Marjorie Kirwan said that their daughter is “beautiful” inside and out, and the family looks foward to seeing her again.
    “For weeks now, we have been praying that any day now she will be home. We miss her and love her very much. We are requesting the public to come forward with any information they may have regarding our missing daughter, no matter how small or irrelevant they may think the information is,” she said.
    “Come forward and let the police decide if the information is relevant to the investigation.”

    End of Quote

    This from the New Glasgow News:
    New Glasgow News ~ Parents make plea for Amber Kirwan’s safe return
    Published on November 1, 2011
    Quote:
    “Amber’s family, boyfriend and friends mean the world to her,” she said. “She was very protective of her brother.”
    End of Quote

  27. Nan11~~the interview was very brief. Amber’s mother read from some notes she had prepared as the father just sat silent. Both parents looked so tired and forlorn. I was so hoping that we would learn something from the police about the clothes sent off to Ottawa.

    The video lasted 3:52 minutes.

  28. bridget says:

    I am upset that the police are asking hunters to keep an eye out for clues etc. …… maybe it’s a “silly” thing to be upset about …. but if dear beautiful Amber is in the woods and the police believe this enough to ask the hunters for assistance, then wouldn’t the integrity of the crime scene (if the dreadful worst has occured) be tampered with, trodden over etc. …. leading to the loss of any valuable clues as to the perpetrator(s) etc? If they feel sure enough that the hunters may recover something … so much so that they have put these requests out then shouldn’t thay “go back in” and go over the area with a fine toothed comb? Shouldn’t they try to keep a possible “area of interest” as pristine as possible … so that any clue … no matter how small may lead to a “breakthrough” in this tragic tragic case and bring Amber home to her family …..
    Gentle, gentle hugs to you Kevin … my heart is with you …..

  29. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I think I’m going to get to see it at 6:00 on the CBC. They just said that had a ‘full report’, coming up.

    Maybe they won’t show the whole thing, but I’ll settle for anything.

  30. bridget~~it would be literally impossible for LE to search the vast area where Amber’s remains may be, if there was foul play and she is deceased. Any responsible hunter would know if they come across any evidence not to touch it but to call the PD. LE are not even sure that Amber is still in the province since the abductor would have had a 16 hr head start of making a get-away. Now the New Glasgow PD and the RCMP have a homicide to investigate along with the hundreds of other crimes they have to deal with.

    Keep the faith that something will turn up and there will be a break in this case and thank you for your comments.

  31. Kathy Horne says:

    our thoughts and prayers are with the family…words can never express our true emotions…we think of you every day… and we hope for a safe return for your beautiful daughter Amber …that she may come home safely…take care and stay strong… kevin and kathy

  32. kevin says:

    I think we should keep this on the positive side, since there is nothing to say then right now its 50 -50. I think we should all say prayers for the family and give them our support.I have been there and right now they need all the support they can get.

  33. kevin says:

    I will say this though that in the video why was it mentioned that she would go to Halifax every now and then, is this a clue. Again I find it hard to believe they are asking for the publics help but are`nt saying much for the public to go on .

  34. kevin~~I will tell you honestly that I was very disappointed with the press conference today. The policeman should have taken questions from the press. We have nothing to go on. We need to know some of Amber’s habits, where she went and who, besides her boyfriend, did she have any ties with. Does she have relatives out of province? Did she ever date anyone besides Mason Campbell? Was she getting a lot of attention from any other male in their group? Did Mason Campbell have any enemies?? We need more information and hopefully not in the form of idle rumors.

    My heart goes out to Amber’s parents. I know they have been trying to deal with their deep hurt privately but they will have to try and show themselves more so we can put a human side to this. Amber is/was someone’s loving daughter. When you see the parents of a loved one begging for information, it just may cause someone to reach inside their heart and come forward with some information that they have been too scared of divulging because they don’t want to get involved.

  35. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I finally found a link to Mr. & Mrs. Kirwan’s ‘press conference’ that works on the old ‘puter. (Sometimes it takes great patience.)

    Anyway, I’ll link it here; and, I also made a transcript of it. I notice they seem to be asking for the public’s assistance in two ways: [1] any information on Amber’s disappearance; and [2] any infromation on Amber’s whereabouts.

    Metro News ~ Video (and write-up) Amber Kirwan’s mother urging people with info to come forward
    Sub Heading: Marjorie Kirwan says if you know something about her daughter’s disappearance, tell police
    By Jennifer Taplin | Published & Modified: November 02, 2011 | 12:41 a.m. Atlantic Time
    Unofficial transcription of video:
    Const. Ken MacDonald: Good afternoon and thank you for coming on this day; in an effort to search for Amber Kirwan. Today the parents of the missing 19 year old, Amber Kirwan, will be addressing the public about their daughter’s disappearance; and their public plea from the general public.

    First, I’d like to introduce Marjorie Kirwan on my right; and Donald Kirwan, also on my right—parents of Amber Kirwan.

    The New Glasgow Police Service, and members of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, continue to conduct an investigation into the disappearance of Amber Kirwan, last seen Sunday, October 9, 2011. Since October 9, 2011, at approximately 1:30–Amber Kirwan has not been seen or heard, since the early morning of her disappearance as she left the Dooly’s Pool Hall in the area of New Glasgow.

    For weeks–search teams; police investigators; police canine units; and forensic services continue to search for wooded areas and water areas in the various locations throughout Pictou County. Today, police investigators continue to follow-up on valuable tips and information; and possible items of interest, provided by the general public.

    Possible items of interest are being processed by forensic services to determine their evidentiary value in relation to the missing person case. The investigation and searching is ongoing.

    Investigators from the New Glasgow Police Service have stressed the continuing need to ask for the general of the public’s assistance with any information about her whereabouts, to contact the New Glasgow Police Service; other police service; or Crime Stoppers.

    I’d like to introduce Marjorie Kirwan, who would like to address the public and the media here this afternoon.

    Marjory Kirwan (at about 2:09 minutes in): We want the public to know what kind of daughter Amber is. The only way to describe Amber is sweet and innocent. She is not only beautiful on the outside, she is beautiful on the inside. She has always been very respectful of my feelings. Even after moving out, she would text me and say: “Mom, I’m going to Halifax for the day—just in case you are wondering where I am.”

    She graduated from Northumberland High School in 2010, which was a very exciting time in her life. We are very proud parents.

    Amber’s family, boyfriend, and friends mean the world to her. She is very protective of her younger brother—always texting him and making sure he is on the right path. She loves going to his hockey games. She loves to shop; go to the movies. She is your typical teenager living life. Amber is attending community college. Her plan is to become an LPN. We know she will be very good at this because she is compassionate.

    Amber moved into an apartment in June. She was excited about this, but she still had the same goals of her education and working part time. It’s been [unintelligible at 3:14 minutes in] weeks now—we’ve been praying that any day she will be home.

    We miss her, and love her very much.

    We are requesting the public to come forward with any information they may have regarding the missing of my daughter—no matter how small or irrelevant they may think the information is. Come forward and let the police decide if the information is relevant to the investigation.

    We also ask the public’s assistance with information about her whereabouts–to contact police or Crime Stoppers anonymously any time. Thank you for coming today.
    End of Transcription

  36. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here, so far, is just an article from the CTV Atlantic. I think the video will join it shortly.

    Apparently, just like the ‘extra eyes’ of the hunters, the plea from Mr. and Mrs. Campbell is generating ‘numerous tips and information.’ Okay, three cheers. {sigh} Where is Amber?
    CTV Atlantic ~ Mother’s plea for Amber’s return brings in new tips
    Date: Wednesday Nov. 2, 2011 4:34 PM ET
    Quote:
    Yesterday, her mother Marjorie Kirwan made an emotional plea to the public for her daughter’s safe return. She spoke for less than two minutes but police say her remarks have produced results.

    “We’ve received numerous tips and information from the general public,” says Const. Ken MacDonald, a spokesman with New Glasgow Police. “As a result, each tip and information must be investigated.”
    End of Quote

  37. Nan11~~I heard that news on ATV with Steve Murphy tonight. Maybe, just maybe, someone will decide to come forward and not be afraid of any retaliation.

  38. nan11 says:

    Snoops: You know, I never looked at it that way. Now that you mention it, and in light of some of the recent events, I can understand. I hope that if that is what was holding them back, that they do get over it and come forward.

    Can’t they remain anonomous through Crime Stoppers, though. Maybe that is a stupid question, but I really don’t know.

    This is going to be long, but I was just so desperate for news that I decided to type out the CBC podcast. It is an interview with Mariea Leil-Bowser–she is the volunteer co-ordinator, as well as very best friends with Mason’s mother. I believe she is also in charge of making sure that all monies raised during ‘benefits’ get deposited in the TD bank. She is a very big Mason fan.

    Here is a link to the podcast and the transcript of the interview:
    CBC Pod Cast ~ Mariea Leil-Bowser is interviewed
    Unofficial Transcript:
    Begins at about 2:38 minutes in:
    Host: Mariea Leil-Bowser is co-ordinating the effort in New Glasgow and she is with us now. Hi, Mariea.
    Mariea: Hi.
    Host: Now you were just speaking with Amber’s mother this morning; and it was clearly difficult for her to speak to the media yesterday. How is she doing today?
    Mariea: As good as to be expected. Her daughter is still missing and we are all doing what we can to try to bring her home.
    Host:: Well, it has been such a long time. How is the mood in the community? How are people holding up?
    Mariea: Some people are losing hope. That is why we are here at the centre—to keep people getting the fliers out; keep Amber’s name out there; her photo out there—to get it as far as we can so that everybody continues to look for her. We need to bring her home. I mean, the Kirwan’s can’t sleep. Her brother is missing her. Mason is missing her. I’ve only, myself, met her a couple of times; and, I have got so much heart and emotion into this that it is just—I can’t imagine her not coming home. I believe she is alive and out there. We just got to find her.
    Host: As you said, you have met Amber. You have a personal connection. Tell us about that.
    Mariea: I met her a couple of times with Mason, her boyfriend. And she is just a sweet, sweet girl. She looked like she was 12, yet she was 17. Very quiet; very small. She was just a friendly sweet, sweet girl. Like I can see why there is so much love and support for her; and people trying to find her. The love her friends and family have for her—I totally understand why.
    Host: Now you met her because you are best friends with Mason’s mother. Correct?
    Mariea That is correct.
    Host: Police have interviewed Mason twice—they have taken his car. How has that changed things for you?
    Mariea It has not changed things for me, and he has been very supportive with the police. He has done numerous things to try and help them find Amber. All he wants is to bring the love of his live home. At first, of course, he would be a suspect. He was her boyfriend—that is just the ‘norm’. But now I no longer feel, nor does Mason, that he is a person of interest.
    Host: Volunteers are no longer searching. Why not?
    Mariea: Police have asked that we not search because, if there is any evidence out there, we may tamper with it if we see it. Personally, we are asking people to check their own properties. If you live near a road that is safe for you to walk on—don’t go alone—but check the road. Like check your own environment, because, as we are aware, the police can’t be everywhere at every minute of the day. So, any bit of searching that the public can do—would greatly be appreciated by all of us. Volunteers are still searching by getting fliers out, getting the ribbons out there. Everybody that you see with a green ribbon on, knows what the green ribbon stands for. A green ribbon tied to your car stands for hope for Amber. We just had a phenomenal benefit on the weekend. People have got to realize, yes, I know your life has to go on; but for the Kirwan’s, and for Mason, and for Amber’s friends—it can’t. We need to find Amber.
    Host: How long can you keep going, Mariea? This has been a long process for you too. Long, long days.
    Mariea: Yes, it has. I started, well. Two days after she went missing, I was contacted by Eva asking me to start the centre because of—first, it was the kids out looking and it was just chaos because everybody is upset, of course, trying to find her. And Eva had asked me if I would start a centre where organization was done; where I had people going to different locations. I knew where they were. Just to make sure that there was not an area missed. That flyers were out there everywhere.
    Host: You mentioned Eva. Who is Eva, Mariea?
    Mariea: Eva is Mason’s mom. I will continue to go as long as Marg and Donnie need me to. And as long as Amber is still missing.
    Host: Amber’s parents have also been into the volunteer centre, and they have told you they want you to keep going. What have they said?
    Mariea: They were in to thank me personally for all the work that myself and the other volunteers have been doing. Asking us to please not give up looking for her; to continue handing out fliers to keep her name out there.
    Host: Well, we hope you get some news soon. Thank you so much for talking to us today.
    Mariea: Thank you.
    Host: That is Mariea Leil-Bowser. She is co-ordinating the volunteer effort around Amber Kirwan’s disappearance in New Glasgow, N.S. And the New Glasgow Police will not confirm if Amber’s boyfriend, Mason Campbell, was or still is, a person of interest in this case.
    End of Transcript

  39. nan11 says:

    Snoops: This is a decent little read, too. Bless their innocent hearts–yes, technically, it could have been anyone. However, statistics tell a different story, iykwim.
    Hope still alive for Amber Kirwan
    Scott SimpsonNov 02, 2011 05:33:26 AM
    Quote:
    The trio say the disappearance is disturbing because it could have happened to any of them.
    “I was at Dooly’s that night,” Jasmine told News 95.7. “I left at 12. It’s a busy road, that’s a busy bar. That could have been anybody.”

    End of Quote
    Their comments made me think of some other comments I heard recently. I lot of people are ‘feeling hope’ because of the Moncton case, where the lady was missing for 28 days, iirc. (Very close to a month, for sure.) One big difference that I see, though–in that lady’s case, no items belonging to her, what-so-ever, were ever found.

    I truly realize that nothing has been confirmed; but there is this article from the New Glasgow News. I quote: Const. Ken MacDonald says that items of interest, including clothing, were sent to forensic identification services in Ottawa for analysis. “We’re waiting for the report on that, we’re expecting it any day,” MacDonald said Tuesday.”

    “Tuesday” would have been October 25, 2011. We have not had any confirmation one way or the other on this. It could be that the ‘forensics’ are back and they are not related to Amber, I suppose. I hope so.

    IIRC, this write-up hit the ‘air waves’ just before the fatal shooting. This have changed a bit since then, imoo.

    (I did check earlier–I did not find any new write-ups on the homicide, either. Just sayin’.)

    Prayers for you tonight, Amber. And every night. Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ

  40. nan11 says:

    Snoops: One of Amber’s friends, (the little one that she used to make ‘mud pies’ with, I think), had some beautiful things to say about her.
    Friend of missing woman urges people to keep eyes, ears open
    Published on November 2, 2011
    Quote:
    Amber is one of the most caring and considerate people, Taplin says she knows.
    “She is so friendly towards everyone and is just generally happy. Her smile is contagious and she has the cutest laugh ever,” she said. “She is someone who is always there for her friends and family, and she is just so loving and so much fun. She is genuinely a great person and there are not many people like her in this world, so we need her home so she can continue to brighten up our lives.”

    End of Quote

  41. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is a little update. It’s basically a rehash of the fact that the plea by Amber’s parents has brought about new tips.
    Metro Halifax ~ Missing daughter plea brings in tips
    HEATHER GILLIS ~ METRO HALIFAX
    Published: November 03, 2011 12:10 a.m. ~ Last modified: November 03, 2011 12:10 a.m.
    Quote:
    MacDonald could not say exactly how much of an increase the public appeal has generated, but said all the information received so far will be “investigated fully” by investigators and forensic teams.

    “That’s what’s in the process now,” he said. “It’s been like that since October 9 from 1:30 a.m. when she went missing and it was reported to the police.”
    End of Quote

    Okay, lets take them at their word and say there as been an increase in ‘tips’ since Mr. and Mrs. Kirwan’s plea for their daughter, Amber.

    Let us watch it again–not to watch their pain. No, absolutely not. Remember, they came forward voluntarily; hoping that their statement would bring forth new information on Amber. They want us to watch. They are asking us to think–to remember. Video here.

    Let us take another look at the video of Amber leaving Dooly’s. Watch here. Let us watch as we see her cross George Street and head up Archimedes Street, toward Big Al’s. Let’s watch as she enters the shadows in front of Spear’s Boarding House; and as a vehicle approaches from behind.

    Let us contemplate the speed of Amber’s walk and the speed of the vehicle. I suggest that we consider that the vehicle reaches the ‘joining’ of Archimedes Street & North Provost Street; and continues on North Provost Street, just seconds before Amber reaches the ‘joining’ of Archimedes Street & North Provost Street.

    I ask that we remember the path very near this junction, as shown at about 1:43 minutes in on the CTV Atlantic video. The path where someone could have been dressed in dark clothing and hiding in the bushes. The path that leads to Alexander Street, where a vehicle could have been waiting.

    A path and a waiting vehicle–that means one person to ‘grab’ Amber and one person to drive the vehicle.

    One of the perpetrators may have had Amber deep enough in the bushes that by the time the driver of the police cruiser passed there was nothing to notice. Mere seconds.

    We are left with mere seconds for the grab, and at least two people, besides Amber, being involved.

    We are sure that Amber had just left a busy night ‘spot’; the media has reported that Amber was also at a ‘house’ party prior to going to Dooly’s. Could any of the remaining people at the house party have known about the ‘meeting place’ arranged between Amber and her boyfriend? Could any of the patrons on the inside or outside of Dooly’s?

    Still, we are left with seconds and two people, and ‘people’ talk. Locals talk. What have you heard? Please, please–call Crime Stoppers if you are afraid–but contact someone in authority–not Amber’s boyfriend!

    Maybe you don’t agree with me. Good! Watch the videos anyway. Talk about it. Think about it. Pray about it. Check your own property. Listen.

    Something happened here. A young woman was abducted. (Unless you want to believe Amber ran away; but not even law enforcement believes that.)

    Amber deserves to be found! Just barely turned 19 year old Amber Kirwan deserves to come home!

  42. Kathy Horne says:

    still praying for this beautiful girl and her family….just read on the crimestopper’s page that she had only left to go out to dooleys at around midnight… I had somehow thought that she had been there for a longer period of time…:( this changes things for me… I don’t know why?… and why does the vidoetape end when it does..did it run out of time or was it cut off..I just want there to be an answer ..:( I wish I could somehow solve this…my heart is breaking….what happened…? none of it makes any sense….

  43. nan11 says:

    Kathy: My heart breaks for Amber, too.

    I believe we have been told officially that that was the end of the video, but I question that, as well. I noticed that at the very beginning of the video, we see a car go right up to the ‘corner’ of Archimedes Street and North Provost Street and continue out of sight–thus, imo, we should have been able to see if that car kept going past Amber.

    I have different theories–but one of them is that that car did stop and Amber did get in–because she knew the people who were inside. I have even wondered if they have that on tape and that is why they keep insisting this is a ‘missing person case’. mhoo (But they don’t want us to see that part.)

    Another thing I wonder about, (one of many things, I guess)–is if she was on the phone in the ‘still’ pictures at 1:30 a.m. (assuming the camera was out by 40 minutes); and by closely examining the practically nonexistent time stamp on the video itself, we come to the conculsion that she left the front of Dooly’s at 1:36 a.m–what happened, or who is in the video, during those 5 to 6 minutes that we cannot see. (I think the video that was released is something like 41 seconds long.)

    Hearing that she did not leave her home until close to midnight, makes me believe that she probably did just have one drink while she was at the club–not a lot of time there.

    And notice it says she left to attend local clubs–plural. That is the very first I have heard of that. I have heard lots of ‘rumours’ that the boyfriend was at other (seedier) local clubs earlier, instead of being ‘home’. So was he home when Amber called him? I do not believe that has been confirmed.

    The rest, I don’t know what to think, really. The boyfriend said he told her he would meet her at the club, but ‘something came up’ and he didn’t make it. Apparently, choosing instead to have her meet him at Big Al’s–which had closed at 11:00 p.m. on Sunday, October 9, 2011.

    But, what could come-up in less than two hours? And why is law enforcement so interested in the 1:45 a.m. time slot. If she did get in that car, do they think it was driving around the area for a while?

    Oh, Amber. Sweet Amber. Please come home. Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ

    I almost forgot–I’ll add the Crime Stoppers link here:
    Nova Scotia Crime Stoppers ~ Missing – Amber Donna KIRWAN – New Glasgow, NS
    Posted on October 17, 2011 by NS Crimestoppers

  44. kevin says:

    Nan you have a lot of valid points and I agree with you, but the one thing that bothers me the most is that everyone keeps calling this an abduction and then they say that could have been me. I will not believe this until I hear something to validate it .There is only two people who know what went on that night and why things happened the way they did.
    I also agree about the car at the front of the video, we see it drive right to the end but at the end of the video everything is blurry and out of focus. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm wonder why that is , who are they protecting. The video and the still shots don`t even resemble each other , look at the crowds they are different.
    Unfortunatley I`m still going to say this is a missing person until I hear other wise. I will continue to say a prayer every night for Amber and for her to come home.

  45. nan11 says:

    Kevin: It always gives me a little hope when someone reminds me that it is still a missing person’s case. 🙂

    I find it hard to stay positive. I’m very concerned over the ‘possible’ items of clothing and shoes found. I try to keep reminding myself that these items have not been confirmed to belong to Amber.

    When you get a minute, drop in with a ‘hints’ about why you think that ‘only two people’ know. I’m starting to think that more than one person may have been involved.

    Prayers for Amber. Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ

    Snoops: My comment of November 4, 2011 | 2:21 a.m. went into moderation because I put an extra ‘n’ in the front of my name. I copied it and resubmitted it here–so, when you come across it, please delete the one in moderation. Sorry, and thanks.

  46. kevin says:

    Well one person we know got a phone call and if she only showed up at the bar at midnight, then that would explain the 12:50 am phone call. This person kind of knew where she was going, when she was going and how she was going but yes not with who or if there was a who. She borrowed a phone , alot of times a person tells that person why they are using the phone. Thats what friends are for. Yes we can say they used my phone and thats all I know, but sometimes we know more and are scared to say or even get involved, especially in a small town. According to what someone said they called the number Amber called from and did not get an answer. Why would that be .
    My opinion

  47. nan11 says:

    Kevin: From reading your comment, I’m not sure if you knew this–the New Glasgow Police say that the time stamp on the picture of Amber on the phone at 12:50 a.m. is incorrect.

    If you know this and overlook it–that is okay with me. I see your point; and sometimes share it myself. 🙂

    That is all we officially get from them. If we take the 1:30 a.m. time given by them, and go back forty minutes, we arrive at 12:50 a.m. I am of the opinion that this gives some ‘credibility’ to the rumour that the clock on Dooly’s surveillance camera was off by forty minutes–it ‘fits’ too close to the somewhat ‘official time’ given by law enforcement. Mhoo, of course.

    Now, that leaves us with the 1:45 a.m. somewhat ‘official time’. This one sticks in my side. What are they getting at here?

    Some have taken a good ‘close-up’ look at what we can see of the actual time-stamp on the video of Amber walking away from Dooly’s, and they believe it to be 12:56 a.m. This has not been officially confirmed. However, it is an opinion that I, at least, favour.

    It fits in well with the Crime Stoppers posting that Amber was last seen leaving Dooly’s at 1:36 a.m.; and it allows a ‘time passage’ of approximately six minutes before we begin viewing the approximately 41 second video of Amber speaking briefly to her friend and beginning the walk toward Dooly’s.

    Six minutes for the crowd to disperse; for Amber to have ended the call and returned the phone to its owner. But, of course, we are ‘not’ allowed to view any of these six minutes. Everything must be kept top secret. Yep. {sigh} (Possibly because of who appearded in the video? But, I suggest, we will never be allowed to know–even if it is the reason why this crime is never solved. However, I digress and it is too early for statements like this. Shame on me.)

    Now the nine minutes after the 1:36 a.m. time of Amber leaving Dooly’s is very striking to me, and brings us to 1:45 a.m. I can imagine ‘seconds’ after 1:36 a.m. for the crime; abduction; disappearance–take your pick–to have occurred, but nine minutes? That suggests to me, that they are looking for a car driving around the area that night–that’s all I can come up with.

    I’m beginning to believe that there may have been more people in the car than Amber and the driver. At least at that point. (At least, today, right now–that is where I’m at.)

    Here is a linked quote by the boyfriend concerning ‘his’ end of the 1:30 a.m. call:
    10th paragraph here: Campbell said Kirwan called him from Dooly’s and asked him to pick her up. They agreed to meet at Big Al’s. When he got there though, she wasn’t there, so he tried calling the number she had called from but no one saw here there. He returned to Big Al’s but she was nowhere to be seen.
    This is only one of his very interesting statements. One version of it’s meaning that I favour is that he got to Big Al’s, waited one minute and forty seconds; drove to the Legion parking lot while texting Maggie to ask where the heck Amber was. From his words, I get the impression that Maggie responded with a message saying that Amber wasn’t visible from the area of Dooly’s, at that point.

    This is interesting because in the video, we can see Miss Chickness turning in the opposite direction and leaving right after Amber heads for Big Al’s.

    Here is Maggie’s linked quote regarding those same events:
    25th paragraph here: “We were standing outside Doolys in a group and we were getting ready to leave and she said she was going to meet her boyfriend at Big Al’s,” [Maggie] Chickness said. “We told her we would walk up with her and get our cab from there but she said not to worry. She would be fine.”
    [Maggie] Chickness said there was a large crowd standing outside the bar at the time and she never thought about her friend again until [Mason] Campbell texted her and asked if she’d seen Kirwan.
    “He said she never showed up at Big Al’s,” she [Maggie Chickness] explained.
    [Maggie] Chickness said she figured that Kirwan went somewhere else but when [Mason] Campbell contacted her again the next morning to say she [Amber] never returned to their Pictou Landing home, she [Maggie Chickness] started to take the situation much more seriously.

    I note that Maggie communicates that she new Amber was heading toward Big Al’s to meet her boyfriend; and that she received a text message from the boyfriend sometime later. She does not elaborate with ‘a time’ when she received this text. She does not elaborate with whether or not she responded, (we only have Mason’s word for that). She continues with she figured that Amber went somewhere else.

    Please understand that I am not suggesting anything untoward from the actions of any of these young people. It’s just that they all had a few drinks and none of them seemed to be paying particular attention. We may never know how much reliable information is contained in any of their recounting of the events of that evening.

    What does that leave law enforcement with–nothing but looking for a needle in a haystack, and praying for the right tip. I think that is where we are, in my opinion only, of course.

    Prayers for Amber.

  48. nan11 says:

    Kevin (and Snoops:) Ugh! I’m sorry, but the link in my 3rd paragraph doesn’t work. 😳

    It should read as follows:
    …might want to read it: 4th paragraph here: She is spotted walking near Spears Boarding House before she walks out of the camera’s range. Police say the time stamp on the video, which reads 12:50 a.m., is incorrect and believe the footage was shot between 1:30 and 1:45 a.m. on Oct. 9.

    I also apologize for the length of that comment. I know it is much too long for anyone to bother reading.

    It’s just that I get tired of praying, and I sit down and spin all these wasted words. I’m so desperate for news, any news, on the whereabouts of this young woman.

  49. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I’ll add these few links that I find interesting.

    The first one is for a ‘tide table’. I have started in on October 8, 2011. You will see that there was a ‘tide’ of about three feet (0.9 meters) during in the early morning hours (2:43 a.m. ADT) of October 9, 2011. The tide continued rising, reaching a height of 5.2 feet (1.6 meters) by 9:08 a.m. ADT that Monday morning and began receding.

    By 4:22 p.m. ADT (16:00 hours), it had reached its lowest peak at 2.6 feet (0.8 meters), and began the rise again.

    This next link, gives a little information on the ‘tidal estuary’ of the East River, that runs through the area. I quote: New Glasgow is divided by the East River (north – south), a tidal estuary with salt and fresh water. The three lane George Street bridge is the only vehicle crossing within town limits and is considered the main entrance into the downtown core on the east side of the river. The closest bridges out of town are the Trenton Connector to the north, the Trans-Canada Highway to the south and Bridge Avenue (Stellarton) also to the south.

    This last link is for a CBC article concerning a mink whale that kept getting himself stuck in the East River. He is not a tiny creature. (I think he weighs between 800 to 1000 lbs.) At one point, he made it 8 kilometers (5 miles) up the river. This was in May of this year.

    CBC News ~ Minke whale rescued from N.S. river
    Last Updated: May 9, 2011 4:01 PM AT
    Quote:
    The Department of Fisheries responded to help free the whale, estimated to weigh between 350 and 500 kilograms, after it got stuck on a sandbar.

    The four-metre whale was freed and on Monday afternoon was being towed to Pictou Harbour, where it will be set free in the Northumberland Strait.
    End of Quote

  50. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is a couple of links. The first one is more directed at the shooting death of Mr. Phalen, but it does mention Amber’s case.

    It seems the RCMP media relations officer is saying that there is ‘no indication’ Amber’s case and Mr. Phalen’s case are related. So, I believe, the New Glasgow Police, who are working on Amber’s case, are still saying that even though there is no indication of a connection between the two cases, they can’t rule a connection out. Cute, real cute, no? MOO
    Police seek assistance with homicide
    Posted on November 2, 2011 Debbi Harvie
    Quote:
    Sgt. Brigdit Leger, RCMP media relations officer for the province of Nova Scotia says, “We have been asked if this case is related to the Amber Kirwan case and at this point all we can say is there is no indication they are related.”
    RCMP have taken the lead on the homicide so New Glasgow Police Service can continue to focus on Kirwan.
    Leger says they have received a lot of information from the public. “We have been receiving support from the public and we want to thank them for that.“

    End of Quote

    And this one:
    Missing Children Society manager sees gamut of cases
    Published on November 3, 2011
    Quote
    “There is only so much information that police can share,” she said. “Law enforcement can use the media as effectively and at the same time satisfy the community’s concerns. When people find out that there is a missing person in their own community, almost everyone can relate.

    They start to think, ‘Oh my God, can someone in my community be responsible for this?” “First and foremost, we need to be work for the families and bring these kids back safely,” she said.
    End of Quote

    I’m holding my tongue!!!

  51. Nan11~~you are doing good with keeping this post alive. Why are you holding your tongue? Please do not do that, we need your insight on this case. Sorry I have not been devoting as much time as I should be here as I have the other cases on the go and several things going on behind the scenes.

  52. Kevin Horne says:

    my question Nan would then be why if amber is leaving Doollies at 12:56 for a 5 min walk to meet MC at Big Al`s for 1:30. If Big Al`s closed at 11 pm where was she going to wait for him, thats a long time to just stand around alone. I understand this time is not confirmed but what if.
    You ask about the 1:45 time frame, If amber called mason at 1:36 and it would take Mason 10 mins to get there, could this be what the actual pick up time was suppose to be. If he really loved her he would have stayed more than 1 min 40 seconds . this leads me to think that they where fighting or something and he said if your not there then I`m leaving.
    There is just so many unknowns that I think were going to beat this to death unless something happens

  53. Kevin Horne says:

    Nan do you know the time MC was at Big Al`s or they have not said yet.

  54. nan11 says:

    Kevin: I’m still not right with you on the time Amber left for Dooly’s. I believe it is 1:36 a.m.

    I believe (but may be wrong), that she made the call from the front of Dooly’s at 1:30 a.m. and left at for Big Al’s at 1:36 a.m.

    We don’t really know for sure what time Mason left to pick her up, or where he left from. There is an interesting article with some statements by his mother, but I can’t put my fingers on it right now. (I’ll add it later, though.)

    For now, this one is pretty good: Paragraph 5: Quote: “Campbell’s mother, Eva, and Mariea Leil Bowser, a family friend… {snipped}, both said that Campbell had someone in the car with him when he went to meet Kirwan and that person was with him afterwards when he was looking for her.”

    Notice they don’t give a time, or say if he was home when Amber called him.

    Mason has said himself that it took him about 8 minutes to get to Big Al’s. He did not say where he started out from. It has been estimated that to get to Big Al’s from their Pictou Landing apartment, it should have taken him 10 to 15 minutes.

    Really, though, besides a lot of strange statements–there has been no confirmation.

    I keep hoping that if we keep beating it to death, they will keep working on her case. If we all lose interest, they might be quicker to shelve it.

    I’m wondering why we don’t know about the results of the frensics. The New Glasgow Police said in a press release that the ‘results’ should be back any day. That was just before, or earlier on the same day, as the shooting.

    That shooting seemed to dry up Amber’s forensics.

    Of course, there has been no ‘indications’ of a connection between the two cases, says the RCMP. The New Glasgow Police say they can’t rule a connection out–in spite of the fact that their is no ‘indications.’

    MOO.

  55. nan11 says:

    Kevin: These are three good links for what few ‘facts’ we have:

    1] Paragraph 5, Quote: “”In the eight minutes it took me to get there and the two seconds it took her to walk up that way, with so many people around and such a short time frame, it has to be that someone picked her up,” he [Mason Campbell] said.”

    2] Paragraph 2, Quote: “Eva Campbell, who also lives in Pictou Landing, told media on Tuesday that HER SON WAS NOT ALONE IN THE CAR on the night he was to pick Kirwan up from Dooly’s, and that people were still at the apartment he shared with Kirwan.”

    3] Paragraph 5, Quote: “CTV News spoke with storeowner Al Sutherland on Monday and he says there are three video cameras outside the store, located just a little over 200 metres from Dooly’s.
    He says his store closed at 11 p.m. the night Kirwan disappeared, but the cameras were still rolling. However, KIRWAN DOESN’T APPEAR ON ANY OF THE VIDEOS FROM THAT NIGHT.
    “The only thing we’ve seen on the camera is the boyfriend’s car where he was in our parking lot,” says Sutherland. “He was here for approximately one minute and forty seconds. And then he left.”
    “There was no sign of her at all on the camera. None whatsoever.””

    Now, I think it is important to remember that law enforcement has not confirmed anything that Mrs. Campbell has said. Still, note that she does not state that he left from his apartment–only that he was not alone and that there were people still at the apartment he shared with Amber.

    If we believe what has been released through the media by law enforcement, we have the last known sighting of Amber in front of Spears Boarding House at about 1:36 a.m. The Spears Boarding House is right where Amber’s tiny figure disappears into the shadows, at the very end of the video.

    Whether they have more from the Dooly’s video, or from other videos at other locations, I do not know for sure.

    I do believe that Amber never made it to Big Al’s. If you watch the video at the CTV Atlantic link, notice how far out into the street the camera at Big Al’s picks up. You can see the sidewalk across the street from his store. Notice he says he has three cameras. We only get the ‘view’ from one.

    Nope, I do not believe Amber made it to Big Al’s. (And sorry for the use of the capitals in my quotes–I was not shouting. I wanted those statements to stand out.) 🙂

    Prayers for Amber. Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ

  56. nan11 says:

    Snoops: They are raising the reward for Amber to $15,000.00. It is not clear to me if the money raised will only be for an ‘alive’ Amber. Here is about as much information as I can find on this as I am not a member of Facebook: {snipped} “…to raise more REWARD money to go to someone that leads the Police/RCMP directly to Amber.”

    I guess I could read that as being both ways. I do hope that is the case. I don’t want to be negative, I absolutely do not, but what are the actual statistics that Amber will be found alive?

    If anyone thinks that is not painful for me to type, they would be wrong.

    I cannot see the point in closing our eyes to the reality of what has most likely happened here. I realize there are young people involved with Amber’s search that want to believe she is alive and well–but how does that help Amber, if that is not the case? In the end, all it will do is make it easier for the person or persons that harmed Amber to escape justice.

    Amber needs to be brought home, one way or the other.

    In my opinion, ‘skimming’ the edges of the East River in kayaks is not sufficient. They need divers searching the bottom of that river, now!

    New Glasgow Talks Blog ~ Sherry Blinkhorn, committed to bringing Amber Kirwan home, raises reward from $5,000 to $15,000
    Posted on November 5, 2011
    Quote:
    Please help spread the word that this reward has been increased. Hopefully news of this will fall into the hands of the right person to help finally find Amber.
    End of Quote

    I will be the first one dancing in the streets if I am wrong.

    All of the above, is imhoo.

    Prayers for Amber–sweet, gentle Amber. Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ

  57. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is just the latest rendition by the New Glasgow News of the reward increase.
    Reward for Kirwan increases
    Published on November 5, 2011
    Quote:
    Local businesswoman Sherry Blinkhorn originally posted a reward of $5,000 for information about the 19-year-olds October disappearance, but she decided to up the amount after getting support from community members who want answers.

    “I had a number of people message me to up the reward after a couple of weeks,” she said. “Today is week four and I am confident we can raise $15,000. Other business people are just as upset as I am.”
    End of Quote

    The interesting thing going on right now–is that they are back searching in the Heathbell Road area. There is an old write-up, (see paragraph 4), that I interpret to mean that “items of interest’ were found in this area and were being sent to forensics. (These items are in addition to the ‘items’ found in the downtown area)

    Do you suppose the forensics are back and they are looking again in the same area for something more; or do you suppose they had a new tip?

    Whatever–I’m just glad they are searching again somewhere, anywhere.

    On the ‘Google’ map linked below, Ping “D” is the corner of the Scotch Hill Road and the Heathbell Road. In one of the older articles, I read that there is a lot of ATV trails in that area.

    Ping “C” is Lyons Brook, and Ping “B” is Abercrombie. Earlier searches were done in both these areas.

    Now note right across the water from Abercrombie, (Ping B); is Ping “A” which is the Big Gut Bridge on the Pictou Landing Road–the area of the week long dive.

    There has been no ‘official’ confirmation of this search, but check out the ‘few’ comments on the scanner page. ‘Rumour’ has it law enforcement has been searching there for the best part of this past week, complete with the ‘forensics’ van that accompanies the ‘Major Crime Unit’.

    http://g.co/maps/kcs9s

    Prayers for you tonight and always, sweet Amber. Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ

    (Snoops: This is the comment that is replacing the one I accidentally put on Baby Lisa’s thread. Sorry for this confusion.)

  58. nan11 says:

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2011/11/05/ns-human-remains-found.html

    Snoops: They found her. I can’t fix it right now, I’ll be back later.

  59. nan11 says:

    Snoops: This article is from the Globe and Mail. I think it is better worded.

    They had to get a search warrant, so they found her on someone’s property.

    The Globe and Mail ~ Searching for teen, Nova Scotia police find remains
    Last updated Saturday, Nov. 05, 2011 7:39PM EDT
    Quote:
    Investigators have not made a positive identification of the remains but are working with the medical examiner to do so.

    Police say the remains were found on a property in the community of Heathbell on Saturday afternoon.
    End of Quote

    I knew this was the only way they would every bring the child home; but, OMG, it is painful. I can’t even begin to image what Mr. & Mrs. Kirwan are feeling right now.

    Snoops: They better get the person or persons responsible for this; and they better give them more than 12 years.

    Thank you, Sherry.

  60. Police in Nova Scotia searching for a missing 19-year-old girl have found human remains in Pictou County.

    Police say the discovery was made in relation to the ongoing investigation into the disappearance of Amber Kirwin.

    Investigators have not made a positive identification of the remains but are working with the medical examiner to do so.

    Police say the remains were found on a property in the community of Heathbell on Saturday afternoon.

    Amber was last seen Oct. 9 leaving a bar in New Glasgow after spending an evening with friends.

    Police have released a surveillance camera video showing her leaving a bar alone sometime between 1:30 a.m. and 1:45 a.m.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/searching-for-teen-nova-scotia-police-find-remains/article2226908/

  61. If they had to get a search warrant, then someone tipped them off. I wonder whose property it is??

  62. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I would like to know that, too. Remember the earlier rumours about who had been ‘raised’ in that area.

    These are just a couple of more write-ups.

    The NG News I have listed more to show its ‘secretiveness’ than its ‘newsworthyness’.
    NG News ~ Remains found in Heathbell
    Published on November 5, 2011

    This one interests me a little more. “Forensic specialists are on scene and working with medical examiner’s office:–Snoops, they will take her to Halifax for the autopsy–won’t they? I can’t stand the thought that they would do it in New Glasgow–unless special forensic medical examiners travel from Halifax.
    CNews ~ Remains found in NS as cops seek teen
    By QMI Agency
    Quote:
    Police and forensic ID specialists are on scene assisting in the removal of the remains, and are working with the medical examiner’s office to determine a cause of death.
    End of Quote

    I do feel that the local cops did a good job. I might as well admit it. Also, I believe they were basically on their own after the shooting. I think at that point the RCMP that had been working on Amber’s case left to work on Mr. Phalen’s case. So, kudos to the New Glasgow Police force.

    Everybody has to take special care now; however, to preserve evey bit of evidence that they can. This could be crucial come trial time, even though it does not seem too important right now.

  63. Heathbell is quite a distance from Big Al’s. I figured that who ever abducted Amber probably left the province. They had a 16 hr head start. We will probably never know how long she was held before she was murdered. I would love to know how many miles it is from New Glasgow to Heathbell…

  64. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I think this link will open to the right page. It’s a “Google” distance calculator map.

    It’s really not that far–10.053 miles as the crow flies from Dooly’s.

    Google Distance Calculator

    I’ll do one on the regular “Google” maps that will calculate the road miles.

    (But we don’t know exactly where on the road they found her. I checked in satelite view and Google Earth. There is not a lot of houses on that road–very sparsely populated.)

    One more thing–the black line could continue on a little ways–that is the Heathbell Road on the other side of the Scotch Hill Road, too. (It dead ends there.) And there is one house on that little stretch.)

  65. Nan11~ ~ we don’t want the distance as the crow flies. I am assuming they left New Glasgow and took the Trans Canada 104 and turned off at Haliburton, just across the bridge and headed west to Heathbell.

    (I lifted that map at Unsolved as it wasn’t tied down) I don’t know who made it.

  66. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I chose the Granton Abercrombie Road. About 13 miles. About 28 minutes. They had all night and then some.

    Good old boys know the ‘back roads’, after all. Let us remember that articles of her clothing were strewn in various places around town. (Including Trenton.)

    So, a few locals knocking back a few beers on a holiday weekend–driving around, having a little fun.

    You fill in the blanks.

    http://g.co/maps/39e7u
    Suggested routes
    ► 1. 24.0 km, 26 mins ~ Trans-Canada Hwy/NS-106 N
    2. 21.6 km (or 13.421 miles), 28 mins ~ Granton Abercrombie Rd

    This, imo, was no ‘soft kill’. I hope we can all get the rose colored glasses off and see it for what it was.

    They need to put those basta*!s who did this in a federal prison and leave them there for a long, long, long time.

    MOO

  67. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Okay. This one is closer to the route you are favouring. Almost 15 miles but 26 minutes–better roads I guess.

    I’m favouring the back roads. Amber could have been struggling.

    Unless, she thought she was just going for a drive with someone she new very well. I hope you get my meaning here.

    I think you will.

    http://g.co/maps/d7mqe

    Suggested routes
    ►24.0 km (14.912 miles), 26 mins ~ Trans-Canada Hwy/NS-106 N

  68. Nan11~~ I read it… I filed it away. If what you described was what happened, there is more than one involved.

  69. We have a Crime Lab here in Halifax where they will do the autopsy and make the identity. I expect some tissue and samples will be sent to the Ottawa Lab. They should be able to ascertain the cause of death here in Hfx. I believe they can get DNA from the semen, if present, so hopefully, we will see someone(s) charged for this horrific crime.

  70. Kathy Horne says:

    do you think it was [names editted out]? god bless little amber …..there will never be a reason…she was so innocent….:(

    I think it is best not to accuse anyone of this crime and leave it in the hands of law enforcement~SS

  71. Kathy Horne says:

    My heart goes out to Amber’s family and friends and for everybody who was holding out hope…this is so sad,,a sweet, beautiful girl taken in the prime of her life…Rest In Piece beautiful Amber…”In the arms of the angels…may you find peace.”…

  72. nan11 says:

    Snoops: For those who still had doubts–they have now confirmed that the remains found yesterday were the remains of Amber. 😥
    CBC ~ Police confirm Amber Kirwan’s remains found
    Last Updated: Nov 6, 2011 12:20 PM AT
    Quote:
    RCMP confirm remains found on a property in Pictou County are those of 19-year-old Amber Kirwan.Police confirm remains found Saturday were those of 19-year-old Amber Kirwan.Submitted

    RCMP would not confirm the cause of death or who owns the property.

    “I will let the medical examiner speak to this, but what we have been advised is that it was through visual means that [determined] it was in fact the remains of Amber Kirwan.”

    The property is about a half hour drive from Dooly’s pool hall in New Glasgow, where Kirwan was last seen.
    End of Quote

    The time is pretty close to our Google time, too.

    FYI: Thanks for removing my comment, Snoops. That wasn’t fit to be read. I went to Service this morning, so I’m a little better. Not much, but some.

  73. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Sorry about that–I didn’t see your comment. (At least we picked different sources.) 😉

  74. nan11 says:

    Thanks for your link, Snoops. There is more information in it. Here is an ‘updated’ Google map, with Ping “B” marking the “intersection of Heathbell Road and Hardwood Hill Road.”

    http://g.co/maps/eyncu

    Here is the actual quote from your link, (sixth paragraph.)
    An RCMP spokesman would not say what led police to seek the search warrant for that property, which lies near the intersection of Heathbell Road and Hardwood Hill Road. Someone with knowledge of the investigation, who did not wish to be named, said the police received a tip from the public leading them to the property.”

    And this. It’s only a statement and could mean anything–but I, for one, am glad to hear it.
    Rudolph said police would wait for the medical examiner’s report before taking their next steps.
    “You never take anything off the table,” he said.

    End of Quote

    Last one. This is very sad; but, I’m so glad they did it. Amber deserves more, but it was a start.
    Quote:
    Late Saturday night in New Glasgow, after news of the discovery, people trickled in twos and threes to Dooly’s, where Kirwan last said goodbye to her friends.

    They lit hundreds of candles along a wall nearby, an impromptu shrine where candles have often been lit at night since the teen’s disappearance, and stood in silence.
    End of Quote

    I hope they were praying, and I hope my prayers joined theirs.

  75. Nan11~~ I just posted those links in a hurry so mine may even be duplicates, not to worry.

    I notice that the Police made it clear that Mason Campbell was not connected to that property. I don’t expect the property owner to have put the remains there. Anyone may have trespassed on the property and disposed of her. The body may have even been moved there. It is strange that the day the reward was increased, her remains were discovered. It looks like someone talked and someone squealed on them, otherwise how would they know where to find her in such a vast remote area?

    I cannot understand how Amber could have been abducted by one person. How could he/she drive a car while Amber was struggling to get free? This is just my own opinion. This may have been a rape and then murder or someone out to get revenge on Mason Campbell by murdering his girl friend. It is all speculation and there are questions and answered needed. I have a feeling that the Police and RCMP have many of those answers since they got that tip from whomever.

    I have every confidence in our Canadian Police Force that they will find the one(s) who did this and we will see an arrest soon. Without the media involved, as we have seen in other cases, south of the border, the police are able to do their work without interference. We get frustrated when they do not release information to the public. They are well trained and dedicated in their profession and I am proud of the way they handle their investigations. I am a bit frustrated that our Canadian Justice System is much too lenient when it comes to handing out sentences for crimes of this nature. I hope someday to see that changed and stiffer penalties given such as LWOP meaning natural life and not just ten or twenty years for a crime and then they are out on parole. I still do not believe in the death penalty.

    Let’s hope we see the person(s) responible for taking this beautiful girl’s life arrested very soon!!

  76. Karen C. says:

    Snoopy- One guy with one gun can get a young woman to do just about anything, too many instances to list. Bundy snagged 2 young women at one time. You just have to show them the gun, keep it on them, and head off to the woods, all the time running a patter about how you “just” want some sex, or their purse or whatever you think will work with that particular girl, and that if they cooperate they’ll just let them go free after. They might tell them they just got out of prison and they’re just really horny, but they’ve never “really hurt anyone before”, and if they are Good Girls all will be well. Just say whatever works and keep the gun on them. Tell them they know where they live, they’ll come back to hurt their parents, etc. The gun itself might never be used, only shown for intimidation purposes, and the girl strangled instead. But the gun will control her.

  77. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Yep, they said he wasn’t connected to the property. I never did hear that rumour–I did hear that he was raised in that area.

    I’m happy with their “you never take anything off the table” statement. That is enough for me, for now.

    I think it may be safe to say that law enforcement even went beyond the call of duty to bring Amber home. I read reports where a great number of the Officers involved, worked practically 24/7.

    I salute them for their dedication, and most of all for bringing Amber home.

    As far as theories, I have a couple.

    First one: one rotten apple, one seriously rotten apple–with bad, bad things on his mind–at a house party, biding his time. Watching all the other boys getting drunk and perhaps using their ‘recreational’ drugs. Watching all the pretty girls getting ready and leaving for the club. Listening. Leaving at an opportune moment, maybe with a few ‘extra’ close buddies, but at least one. Driving to the ‘other side’ of the path. One walking through to Archimedes Street. Hiding in the bushes. Knowing he was safe from the range of the surveillance cameras from both Dooly’s and Big Al’s. Amber approaches. He does what he had planned. His buddy or ‘buddies’ are waiting in the car.

    Second one: Someone doesn’t want Mason and Amber together. Someone realizes that these two are ‘in love’ and will not be separated. Someone decided that Amber must disappear. They made it happen, but was not physically involved with the ‘deed’.

    Those are just theories, running around in my mind. I am sure they are probably far, far from what actually happened.

    It could be that we will never get to know the truth. If an arrest is made and the person or persons plead guilty–I’ve seen cases where that was it. The press will be allowed to report the number of years to which they were sentenced, but that was about all. We might get the cause of death–if that can be sure of it.

    I object to that. I think we do have a right to know; because we have an ‘obligation’ to care. That is an obligation required of us by God. We are to care about our neighbour.

    If someone disappeared me in the middle of the night, I would want someone to care. I would want someone to be outraged. While my family was suffering through their grief, I would hope someone would speak for me.

    I appreciate this quote by Rick Howe: “And if you’re not outraged, you’re not paying attention.” Well said, that. IMHOO

  78. nan11 says:

    Karen C.: Well, maybe. Guns really are not that common around our area, though. I know they just had a shooting in the same city that Amber lived; but, still–it is unusual.

    Still, it could happen. I hear you.

    I think Ted Bundy had a seat removed from his car and could ‘chain’ the girls on the floor until he got them in private.

    While I think Amber’s murder was premeditated, I don’t that we will see that degree of ‘slickness’, iykwim.

    Now, watch me be wrong, and it will be released that she was shot. I’d be surprised, but that has happened before.

    imhoo

  79. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Ambers parents have released the following statement. I don’t believed they appeared in public–just the written statement.

    Metro News ~ ‘Our worst fears realized’: Human remains identified as Amber Kirwan
    PHILIP CROUCHER ~ Published: November 06, 2011 9:41 a.m. | Last modified: November 06, 2011 5:08 p.m.
    Quote:
    Late Sunday afternoon, Kirwan’s parents, Donald and Marjorie, released the following statement:

    “It is with overwhelming sadness and grief that our worst fears were realized yesterday. Our beloved Amber will not be coming home to us. Words cannot express the sorrow and sense of loss we feel.

    “Amber was an amazing daughter, sister, granddaughter, niece, cousin, girlfriend and friend. We cannot imagine life without her. She was so young and it breaks our hearts to think of all of the good things in life she will not get to experience.

    “Her time with us was so special. To have it taken away so needlessly is something we will never get over. She was our special girl and we would do anything to bring her back.

    “We would like to thank the people of New Glasgow, Pictou County and beyond, who have supported us during this tragedy. We would also like to thank the police services, search and rescue groups, businesses and s many others who worked so diligently to locate Amber.

    “We ask the media for privacy now as we grieve the loss of our little angel. Any question please contact Cst. Macdonald New Glasgow Police, 759-7277.

    “The Kirwan Family.”
    End of Quote

    So sad. My heart goes out to them.

    The CTV is carrying a similar article, with only excerts of their statemen. I see they have an RCMP Constable doing the commenting now.
    CTV News ~ N.S. police identify remains as those of Amber Kirwan
    Quote:
    [RCMP Const. Bill] Rudolph said the disappearance and now death of the woman has been difficult on everyone in the community and beyond.

    “There’s been calls from many places across Canada and I know there’s been interest from other countries,” he said. “When there is tragic news like this, it affects everyone.

    “To a greater or lesser degree, everyone is touched.”
    End of Quote

  80. Nan11~~I watched the ATV news tonight and it showed the searchers combing the woods to find any additional evidence. I notice there was some snow in those woods. They are lucky to have found her before the body got buried in the snow. I wonder if they were looking for a weapon or bits of evidence from the one who did this.

    I notice they said that an autopsy has not been performed yet and also said they were not disclosing the cause of death. This seems to suggest that the manner in which she was killed was visably evident. That would indicate a gun shot or strangulation.

    Ninety-five percent of my readers are from Canada and even as far away as the The North West Territories. The majority are from Nova Scotia especially Pictou County and hardly any from south of the border. Just thought I would let you know since you are such an active contributor here. The hits have gone well over the 1000 mark and most are coming back to read more updates.

  81. Paula says:

    OMG! I can’t believe it. I mean I can but I never wanted to believe it. My thoughts go out to everyone who was so involved in this case and I wish it wasn’t true, but sadly, it is.

  82. Paula~ ~right up until Amber’s remains were found yesterday, we clung on to a glimmer of hope that just maybe she would come back home alive. Now reality has set in and we grieve along with her loved ones. I did not know Amber but since I started blogging about her, she earned a place in my heart. Now God has yet another special angel in His kingdom. May her soul rest in peace with the other angels. Thank you for your comments, Paula.

  83. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I’m going to add yet another link for a Google map. The area marked with the Pings “A” & “B” (I intend for them to be very close together), could be the area where she was found.

    From the Chronicle Herald article, we know it was ‘near the intersection of the Heathbell Road and the Hardwood Hill Road.’ From the CBC article which I’ve linked below, we at least are give the ‘impression’ that it was near the sheep farm. Another neighbour added that there is ‘nothing but woods and an old lane.’

    Take a look. I have showed it in satelite view because there is no ‘walking tour’ available.
    http://g.co/maps/86jtz
    I don’t know exactly how this will open for you, but the reason why I used two pings is because if I just put one ping, it would not hold my marker when I tried to link it. So, I decided to stack them one on top of the other, because I only want to mark that one ‘old lane.’

    I have tried to zoom out enough so that you could see the intersection of the roads, and the top right area of the map should show the fairly large sheep farm. No guarantees here, though, that it is the area–I do believe it is close.

    The following article is the same CBC article linked earlier today. They have updated it several times since. Now they have a small video added, and below is the info that I used to base my Google map on.

    CBC News ~ Family of dead N.S. teen asks for privacy
    Posted: Nov 6, 2011 11:54 AM AT ~ Last Updated: Nov 6, 2011 6:41 PM AT
    Quote:
    Volunteers with Pictou County’s search and rescue teams were seen combing the sealed wooded area around the road. Heathbell Road has just a few houses and a sheep farm.

    One neighbour told the CBC’s Shaina Luck that behind the police barricades, there’s nothing but woods and an old lane along it.
    End of Quote

    Sleep in peace, beautiful Amber. Sleep in peace. Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ

  84. This post is officially closed for comments re this case. Thank you all for your participation. Now we will let Law Enforcement do their job without any interference from us. ~~Mainstreamfair

  85. You may leave Condolences Only

  86. Rest in Peace Dear Amber, Rest in the Arms of Jesus

  87. New Glasgow Mayor Barrie MacMillan was quick to issue a statement expressing the town’s grief.
    “Our community is absolutely devastated and heart broken with this terrible news. We had all hoped and prayed for Amber’s safe return,” MacMillan said. “Amber has become Pictou County’s daughter and the concern for her has been paramount in the hearts and minds of everyone each and every day since she went missing. Our deepest sympathies go out to Amber’s parents, brother, family and loved ones. There is no greater loss than a parent losing a child. Pictou County has lost a bright light long before her time. We are in mourning as a community and it is a time of great sorrow.”

  88. margaret says:

    Snoops, I haven’t been on for a few days , it is with a sad heartt that I read the posts. My thoughts and prayers are going out for Ambers family. She was a beautiful young woman and I hope justice for her is quick. Dear Amber rest in peace.

  89. Margaret~~thank you on behalf of Amber’s loved ones. I am leaving a few comments at Jonathon’s Coffee Café to give updates…

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