Amber Kirwan, N.S. girl missing

NEW GLASGOW, N.S. — A ground search in northeastern Nova Scotia turned up no sign of a missing 19-year-old woman by dusk Monday.

Police in New Glasgow, N.S., said Amber Kirwan was last seen early Sunday at a local pool hall where she’d gone with a group of friends.

They say that shortly after 1:30 a.m. local time she left her friends to meet her boyfriend at a convenience store.

The boyfriend, Mason Campbell, told CTV television news that he arrived at the store but Kirwan wasn’t there.

“The second I got there and she wasn’t there, it was completely out of character right there and then,” he told the television network.

“She’s not the type of person not to call either her parents or me or any of her friends,” he said.

Campbell said he believed his girlfriend was either lost or somebody was holding her against her will.

Police have been checking with local businesses and taxi companies, as well as with family and friends in hopes of finding the young woman.

Search teams have also been looking in local wooded areas of the town and small boats have been searching the East River.

Anyone with information on Kirwan’s whereabouts was being asked to contact police or Crime Stoppers.

Joyce White, a local resident helping in the search, told CTV that the case is having an impact on the small community.

“It must touch everyone. …It doesn’t matter who it is, it’s somebody’s daughter,” she said.

Source…

Amber Kirwan, 19, New Glasgow, Nova Scotia goes missing

Dooly’s, New Glasgow

Big Al’s, New Glasgow

Police are asking for Amber Kirwan or anyone with information about her whereabouts to contact New Glasgow Police Service or Crime Stoppers anonymously anytime at 1-800-222-TIPS (8477) or by Secure Web Tips at http://www.crimestoppers.ns.

The following link should work better…

Nova Scotia Crime Stoppers

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380 Responses to Amber Kirwan, N.S. girl missing

  1. Nan11~~I put the maps up for Doolys and Big Als. It looks like half a block from Doolys to Big Als. At 1:30am, that could seem like a mile. I wonder if she walked there by herself.

  2. Sherry says:

    My prayers for her to be found alive and safe! 😦

  3. nan11 says:

    Snoop: I’m hoping they might find some video of her walking that night. They might release that to the public.

    My heart is aching for her and her friends. Maybe they are right, though; and she will turn up.

    Thanks for posting that video. I hadn’t seen it.

  4. nan11 says:

    Snoop: The first link below is the correct one for Nova Scotia Crime-Stoppers. I know the way you have it is the way they gave it in the article–but it doesn’t work. 😉
    http://crimestoppers.ns.ca/online-tips/

    And this link is for a Facebook page, but I just go to a page where I need to sign it. (I tried Firefox, too.)
    https://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=187045654704578

  5. nan11 says:

    Snoop: Here is the address for Big Al’s Convenience Store: 109 Provost St., New Glasgow, NS B2H 2P5.

    It’s supposed to be only a two minute walk. One of her friends say that they all left Dooly’s as a group, but she left them once they all got outside to walk to Big Al’s (alone, I’m quite sure), to meet her boyfriend.

    I wonder how long it took him to get there?

  6. Nan11~~I have a Facebook account so I posted a link to this post. I was able to read the comments at the Facebook link you posted. There are a lot of comments wishing Amber a safe return home etc.

  7. nan11 says:

    Snoop: You know, I would guess that to be more than a two minute walk. With clubs emptying out and everything at that hour, it’s hard to say if there would be much traffic.

    Oh my. I’m not very good at the Google Earth stuff, but it doesn’t look to me like a place I would like to walk alone at that hour.

  8. Here is 109 Provost Street where Big Al’s is located…

  9. nan11 says:

    Snoop: This is one of those links that keeps refreshing, but I quoted a little part from it–even though I don’t know how long it will stay up.

    It doesn’t sound like she had a cell phone. But it doesn’t quite make sense–it says he called the number but no one saw her there–then it says he returned to the store.

    I wonder what the chances are of the store having a working video camera?

    Amber Kirwan still missing -UPDATED
    Quote:
    Campbell said Kirwan called him from Dooly’s and asked him to pick her up. They agreed to meet at Big Al’s. When he got there though, she wasn’t there, so he tried calling the number she had called from but no one saw here there. He returned to Big Al’s but she was nowhere to be seen.
    End of Quote

    I’m going to say some prayers for this young beauty, tonight.

  10. Dan Smith says:

    I think that New Glasgow Police should let a bigger police force investigate this, no offense but these locals cops have sever limitations and do not have very good training. This is a time to put them aside and get some real investigators.

  11. Hi Dan~~I think they will bring the RCMP in to investigate this one. I agree that small town police cannot handle a case like this. I hope that we get some news of Amber soon. It must be hell for her family not knowing what happened. There would be a lot of people leaving bars and establishments around the time Amber made her way from Dooly’s to Big Al’s. Hopefully someone will come forward. Maybe a nice size reward will get some people talking.

  12. nan11 says:

    Snoop: I saw on Canada AM this morning that some of her friends were handing out flyers. I just did a quick search and this link–I guess today thay are focusing more on a ‘patrol’ search.

    Maybe with everyone back at work today, something will break.

    Amber Kirwan still missing – UPDATE Tues. Oct. 11, 8:48 a.m.
    By Adam MacInnis
    Quote:
    “We don’t have search and rescue today – the reason we had Ground Search and Rescue is because we had a large wooded area and we wanted to cover all our bases,” MacDonald said. “Today, we’re having our officers patrol, we have an extra compliment of officers on for this investigation. We’re going to be going door to door, looking in bus shelters, taxis, visiting neighbourhoods, buses, and we’ll go from there.”
    End of Quote

  13. nan11 says:

    Snoop: I was hoping that New Glasgow ‘contracted out’ to the RCMP, but I see that they don’t. Here is a link to their Police Department. They seem to be somewhat prepared.

    If she doesn’t turn up soon, though–I hope they seek help. The sooner they start interviewing all those people who were in the ‘area’ that night the better.

    New Glasgow Police Department

    I came across this link through a bulletin at the top of the above link:
    Notice to Motorists, East River Road
    Quote:
    The Town of New Glasgow wishes to advise motorists that East River Road, from McColl Street to Granville Street, will be closed on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 from 6:00 am for the rest of the day. Detours will be in place. This closure is necessary to allow a contractor to complete a sewer renewal.
    End of Quote
    I hate to type this, I really do–but I hope they keep their eyes open.

  14. nan11 says:

    Snoop: Apparently, from the Facebook link I mentioned earlier–they are saying that Amber did not have her cell phone with her that night, and also that there is video surveillance of her leaving Dooley’s and walking to the convenience store.

  15. Nan11~~if they feel that Amber may be outside of the town of New Glasgow, that is when the RCMP will take over. I think the town of NG just takes care of crimes that happen within their jurisdiction. I may be wrong but I think that is how is works. It is the same with the FBI taking over in the US, especially with a missing person. As each day passes, things start to look a little more grim. Why wouldn’t her boyfriend have picked her up at Dooly’s? I guess maybe that is when they close their doors and lock up for the night. I wonder if Amber made a particular friend who may have offered her a drive to Al’s or walked with her. Did she have much to drink? Lots of questions that need to be answered.

  16. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I read that there is no parking in the front of Dooley’s so that could be why he wanted to meet her at the store. 😕

    One more thing, I just again listed to the video at the link in your post; and I noticed it said that her boyfriend got to Big Al’s less than 10 minutes after she called him.

  17. nan11 says:

    Snoops: This info is from the same link that I posted earlier (see 11:45 am comment); but it has a couple of updates.

    I wonder if these searches are the results of sightings, or why are they searching in these particular areas.

    NG News ~ Amber Kirwan still missing – UPDATE: Police widen search
    Quote:
    UPDATE: NEW GLASGOW – Police are conducting a search on Glass Street around 2 p.m. for Amber Kirwan, but say no new information is available as of yet.

    UPDATE: 3:10 p.m. – New Glasgow Police have widened the perimeter of their search for Amber Kirwan to vacant buildings on the outskirts of the town. Const. Duane Rutledge of the New Glasgow Police Canine unit and Ekko searched the former Tibbets Paints building on Glass Street this afternoon.
    End of Quote

    Here is a link to Amber’s ‘missing person’ flyer:
    http://www.standupday.com/files/AMBER_KIRWAN.pdf

  18. cali patti says:

    We have the same problem with small towns not wanting outside help.
    I sure hope that all is okay with her.

  19. cali patti says:

    The photo of Provost St. ~ what a lovely town. So I went investigating. That area is absolutely beautiful and huge. Amber’s missing time is really quite narrow so she has to be close if she was nabbed on foot. If it was a stranger abduction in an auto then, huge area up there.

  20. I have a question or three…. What time did Mason Campbell get in touch with anyone that Amber was not at Big Al’s? I hope LE checks Mason’s phone records to verify what phone calls he did make once her found out that Amber was no where around. Just the old detective’s wheels doing some spinning in the noggin. What was Mason doing that kept him from going to Dooly’s with Amber? How long has he been dating Amber? Did Amber date any other guys while she was seeing Mason?
    Did Amber drink very much that nite at Dooly’s? Did anyone notice any strangers just sitting around at Dooly’s who appeared to look out of place? If such a person existed, they would not have indulged in alcoholic beverages or drunk very little. If Amber was abducted, a stalker may have been watching her that night or on other occasions?

  21. nan11 says:

    Snoop: I think I read that she was reported missing by her family around 5:00 pm Sunday. I’ll try to find a link for that; but I’m wondering if her boyfriend would have called sooner, would law enforcement have started an official search. I guess what I’m getting at is, I wonder if there is a certain amount of time that has to pass before you can report someone missing?

    I’m getting a feeling that they are just starting to take this serious now. I don’t like it, though–I’d be out of my mind with worry if she was my daughter.

    Some girls her age have been known to disappear for a night or two–but her boyfriend said she was not that type. He feels she would have called him or her family right away, if she could.

    So many questions but no answers. Just prayers again tonight. Come home soon, Amber.

    CBC News ~ No clues in case of missing New Glasgow woman
    Sub-Heading: Friends hope she is found safe
    Posted: Oct 11, 2011 8:27 PM AT | Last Updated: Oct 11, 2011 9:59 PM AT
    Quote:
    “And we all just got together, like a casual night, how we normally would when everyone goes home or when people come up,” Chickness said. “There’s nothing out of the ordinary.”
    End of Quote

    I wondered about a ‘stalker’, too. It would be interesting to know if she went out regularly to the same club–maybe someone had been watching her for awhile. Someone she didn’t even notice.

    I know the man hours involved would be incredible, but I hope they can round up everyone in that bar that night and interview them.

  22. Karen MacIntosh says:

    Why didn’t the boyfriend just pick her up at Dooly’s? Why walk to Al’s corner store? No woman should walk ANYWHERE alone at night…even just around the corner. I hope that she is found soon!!

  23. debbie says:

    boyfriend, boyfriend, boyfriend. he seems so suspicious to me and the questions and answers I saw just now in this mainstream have actually asked all the questions I had in my mind as well. I do hope she is found alive.

  24. nan11 says:

    Snoop: I’m dropping in with a few links for Amber. Nothing new. 😦

    The Chronicle Herald ~ New Glasgow rallies around missing teen
    By AARON BESWICK Truro Bureau ~ Wed, Oct 12 – 4:53 AM
    Quote:
    Some accounts have her wearing a black and blue shirt the evening she went missing but Const. Ken Macdonald of the New Glasgow Police Service warned that police couldn’t verify what she was wearing.
    End of Quote

    This statement bothers me. Why do they say they can’t verify what she was wearing when CTV news released a picture that was taken just before she went out that night. They should be able to verify that–unless they just don’t appreciate the public’s speculation. 😐

    CTV News | (Write-up and New Video) | New Glasgow Police expand search for missing teen
    CTV Atlantic ~ Date: Tuesday Oct. 11, 2011 5:56 PM ET
    Quote:
    The search had mainly been focused in New Glasgow, close to where she disappeared and along the East River, but police expanded their search today to include the outskirts of the town and into the neighbouring community of Trenton.
    End of Quote

  25. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I thought I might as well add this. It’s the very latest from the local newspaper. Also, we can click on this link through out the day, and I think it will keep us updated on the search.

    NG News ~ Search continues for missing New Glasgow teen
    Published on October 11, 2011 | Staff ~ The News
    Quote:
    UPDATE – Wednesday, Oct. 12, 11:25 a.m. – Pictou county ground search and rescue crews were searching near the Trenton connector Wednesday for Amber Kirwan. The search has been expanded to a larger area today and includes having boats in the water.
    End of Quote:

  26. Karen MacIntosh~~first off, welcome to my blog. All first time people go into moderation. If you want to comment again, it will go right through. I hope you will jump right into the conversation if you can find out any info that may help lead to finding Amber. I understand that Dooly’s doesn’t have a parking lot and maybe that is why Amber wanted to meet Mason at Al’s. Does anyone know what time Dooly’s closes for the night or early morning?

  27. Nan11~~the link you posted gave more information on Amber as told by her friend Chickness. This is a mystery but sadly the police are focusing on finding a body so they feel she was abducted and I hate to write the rest. I just hope I am wrong.

  28. nan11 says:

    Oh, Snoops: I just noticed a couple of new updates from the same link. I’ll put it in again below with the quotes:

    NG News ~ Search continues for missing New Glasgow teen
    Quote:
    UPDATE – Wednesday, Oct. 12, 2:52 p.m. – New Glasgow police spokesman Ken MacDonald confirms several items, including clothing, have been discovered during the search. These items are being sent to forensic experts to determine if any of them are related to the case.

    UPDATE – Wednesday, Oct. 12, 1:52 p.m. – New Glasgow Police officers remove a black object from a grassy area in New Glasgow. Police are continuing their investigation into the disappearance of Amber Kirwan who was last seen outside of Doolys at 1:30 a.m. Sunday.
    End of Quote

    Oh, dear. They have found several items, including clothing.

    FYI: When I look at Dooly’s through “Google Maps” (sorry, I can’t get a link to work with the picture showing), I see what looks like a fair amount of accessible parking to me. However, I’m having trouble pulling up the picture of Big Al’s (can’t find it, actually), so I can’t tell if it has more parking than Dooly’s.

  29. Louise says:

    Why wasn’t Amber carrying cell phone? Every young person carries cell phone no matter what – yes they get left behind from time to time but coincidentally it was left behind when she went missing. Yes that is possible but still questionable. Like what lady leaves house without purse? Purse Phone – both the same these days. Did Amber use friend’s phone to call boyfriend? If not, why not. Seems easier than using phone booth and you don’t need a quarter. And young people text more than phone call. In fact they answer text and send text but don’t answer phones ! The “missing cell phone” may be variable but not sure how…….

  30. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I have a few new articles to link, but no new news. 😦

    It looks pretty bleak–the one new tidbit I gathered is that the things they found today were found in different locations. That could me a lot of different things, I guess.

    Here is the first link. It’s from ATV so it has a short video.
    Search teams from across N.S. join effort to find missing teen
    CTV Atlantic | Date: Wednesday Oct. 12, 2011 5:44 PM ET
    Quote:
    “We’re looking for any sort of evidence that may be present,” says New Glasgow Fire Chief Doug Dort. “It’s like a needle in a haystack. We’ve got to look for something and we don’t know where to start, but we’re doing a general search of the river.”
    End of Quote

    The second link.
    CBC News ~ Kirwan’s boyfriend questioned in her disappearance
    Posted: Oct 12, 2011 4:54 PM AT~ Last Updated: Oct 12, 2011 4:49 PM AT
    Quote:
    “I haven’t slept since Saturday. I have been having trouble remembering, you know, what I’ve done from the time she went missing, the next day when I started searching,” he [Mason Campbell] said.

    “I’ve had trouble picking out bits and pieces of what I was doing completely that day. But for the most part they have every bit of my information — everything I’ve done, any leads I’ve followed up on, any calls I’ve gotten. They know everything.”
    End of Quote

    Prayers for Amber.

    Nan11, your second link shows page not found. It looks like it would have been an interesting read~SS

  31. Louise~~welcome to my blog and thank you for your input. If, and I say if, Amber left her cell phone home purposely, I cannot understand what this would have to do with her disappearance.
    No doubt law enforcement took her cell phone in as evidence and are checking it for any numbers she has stored in the memory. I understand that Amber called Mason from Dooly’s to pick her up at Big Al’s. Dooly’s possibly have a pay phone. I did not hear it mentioned that she used one of her friends phones to make the call to Mason but I am not ruling that out.

    Since she just moved in with her boyfriend, I cannot see her running away with someone else. This looks like an abduction with possibly foul play involved. Amber may have been taken out of province against her will. She is very young and attractive and there are those who steal women off the street and they end up in a big city like Montreal. I believe it is called sex slavery. I hope this is not the case and is just my opinion.

  32. nan11 says:

    Snoops: The following are just a few rumors I’m picking up without a link to support.

    Apparently, Amber’s boyfriend’s license permit did not allow him to drive after midnight–so, this could be the reason that he wanted to meet her at Big Al’s–further away from the area where the police would most likely be heavily patrolling. (Also Dooly’s is on a one way street.)

    Also, it’s been rumored that she left her cell phone with him that night–only taking a pocket size ‘wallet’ with some cash and a credit card.

    FYI: I’m quite sure Dooly’s stays open until 2:00 am. I think they stop serving at 1:30 am.

  33. Nan11~~I wonder why Mason cannot drive after midnight??? He looks quite young. I have got to stop studying body language and looking at people eyes when they talk…I cannot say anymore at this time. *wink

  34. FYI ~~ To Debbie, you made a comment that started out “boyfriend, boyfriend, boyfriend”….when I clicked on it to approve it, it got deleted. You are welcome to try and repost it. Sorry for the inconvenience.

  35. Sherry says:

    Snoops~some people have a hard time driving at night because it is blinding to them when faced with headlights. I have this problem. There is a bright halo effect around the headlights and I can’t see until the car is passed me. There are special glasses that folks can wear at night to help in this. Maybe Mason has the same problem.

    I have Debbie’s comment if you want me to c&p it. It came through in my email.

  36. nan11 says:

    Snoop: Now, how can I explain something I really don’t understand? 😆

    It’s got to do with some new rules (laws). (Well, maybe not so ‘new’, but ‘new’ since my day).

    When you get your first ‘permit’, you have to drive so long with a licensed driver beside you (and only one). Then, at some point you can drive alone, but not after midnight.

    It also makes a difference if you complete an official ‘driver’s education’ course.

    I’m not really sure–it depends on age and experience, though. Also, it may vary from province to province.

  37. nan11 says:

    Sherry: Oops. I didn’t see your comment when I posted my.

    You have an excellent point. I am familiar with that scenario myself. :mrgreen:

  38. Sherry~~how in the world did you end up with Debbie’s comment. It was in ‘pending’ and I clicked on it and it totally disappeared. Go ahead and post it.

  39. Sherry says:

    I always get what doesn’t get posted-even comments before they get amended by the blog owner. I don’t know why that is, really, lol.

    Here it is:
    boyfriend, boyfriend, boyfriend. he seems so suspicious to me and the questions and answers I saw just now in this mainstream have actually asked all the questions I had in my mind as well. I do hope she is found alive

  40. Sherry~~do you get other bloggers comments that do not get posted or just mine? You must have some great reading. I used to get some humdingers that never saw the light of day. I very rarely get any nasty comments now as those other ‘ones’ seem to have moved on.

  41. Sherry says:

    I don’t know if i get all of the spam comments or the deleted ones but there have been many times I want to respond to a comment only to find it has been deleted ot that the blog owner has reworded or changed her comment. 😮

    Most of the deleted comments are from that clown troll that’s a he who posts as a she.

  42. Sherry~~if I make an edit to a comment, I put [ editted out ] in the comment. If someone asks me to correct a typo or fix a link, once I fix it, I delete the comment requesting same. I may delete these comments as they are off topic but will do it later. Thanks for letting me know you got that comment of Debbie’s.

  43. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Sorry for the length of this comment; but I wanted to put all the info we have from the two write-ups which appeared in the New Glasgow News together.

    If you feel I have quoted too much of the write-ups, please feel free to shorten or delete the comment, totally.

    New Glasgow News: Amber Kirwan still missing
    Published October 10, 2011 | By Adam MacInnis
    Quote:
    Kirwan’s family reported her missing to police Sunday evening. She was last seen at Dooly’s New Glasgow at 1:30 a.m. on Sunday morning and has not been seen or heard from since that time. She was last seen wearing dark clothing.

    Campbell said Kirwan called him from Dooly’s and asked him to pick her up. They agreed to meet at Big Al’s. When he got there though, she wasn’t there, so he tried calling the number she had called from but no one saw her there. He returned to Big Al’s but she was nowhere to be seen.

    He said Kirwan took a cab into Dooly’s and he had planned to join her, but was unable to.

    Police and family say it is completely uncharacteristic for her to go anywhere without telling anyone.

    The site [a Facebook profile called “New Glasgow Police Services”] claims that Kirwan was spotted at the Needs around 9 p.m. in New Glasgow with a man yesterday, but [New Glasgow Police Const. Ken] MacDonald said there has been nothing confirmed although police are investigating rumours. He said they are going to many businesses to see if they have any video of the woman.

    A Needs employee refused to comment about the woman’s disappearance. An employee of Dooly’s who was working the night Kirwan went missing, said that the woman was not kicked out of the establishment as some rumours have said. She said she didn’t remember seeing Kirwan, but there was only one woman kicked out and it wasn’t her.
    End of Quote

    Also, I’ll just mention this here—if you click on the picture in the top right hand corner of the write-up, it will enlarge. Look closely at the article in the left hand of the man bent over a little—it could be a ‘black flat’. 😦
    New Glasgow News: Boyfriend questioned in Kirwan’s disappearance
    Published Ocbober 11, 2011
    Quote:
    New Glasgow Police Const. Ken MacDonald confirmed that they have talked to Mason Campbell, but said that is not out of the ordinary. He said in a missing person’s case they always question those who are close to the suspect and those who last saw her to get as much information as they can.

    Campbell said he has talked to police for about four hours.

    He said he didn’t want to drive all the way into town because his car inspection and insurance is up and he also isn’t supposed to drive after midnight.

    He said this isn’t the first time that he and Campbell have agreed to meet at a nearby location because of the same reasons.

    She [Maggie Chickness] was one of the last few people to see Kirwan Sunday morning as she walked towards Big Al’s Convenience Store to meet her boyfriend, Mason Campbell.

    “We were standing outside Doolys in a group and we were getting ready to leave and she said she was going to meet her boyfriend at Big Al’s,” Chickness said. “We told her we would walk up with her and get our cab from there but she said not to worry. She would be fine.”

    Chickness said she figured that Kirwan went somewhere else but when Campbell contacted her again the next morning to say she never returned to their Pictou Landing home, she started to take the situation much more seriously.

    Kirwan had been visiting with friends earlier in the evening before a group of them had moved onto Doolys, said Chickness and added Kirwan had forgotten to take her cell phone to the bar and only had one drink while was there.

    “She was in a good mood. She was happy.” She said, adding this was only Kirwan’s second time at Doolys since she turned 19 in August.

    She said she [Amber Kirwan] grew up in the Lourdes area and graduated from Northumberland Regional High School in 2010. She moved in with Campbell about four months ago. They had been dating for a couple of years.

    Kirwan is 5’1” and weighs about 130 pounds. She was last seen wearing black leggings with a black and blue shirt, dark sweater and black flats for shoes.
    End of Quote

  44. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I hope this link works because I’ve spent hours trying to find and mark these locations on a ‘Google’ map. 😆
    http://g.co/maps/juznf
    Now, if it works, ‘Pin A’ will be the location of ‘Doolys’. If you click on the marker, you should get a little pop up box. Then you can click on the words ‘street view’ which appears under the small picture, and you will connect to a larger picture. You can then hold your left mouse button down and slide it to the left (back)—at this point you should be able to clearly read the ‘Doolys’ sign and see the parking lot.

    ‘Pin B’ is for ‘Big Al’s’. I finally found it. The address is 109 N Provost St., New Glasgow, NS B2H 2P5. Needless to say, the ‘north’ is very important. It is in the opposite direction on Provost Street than I was previously getting—this is why I couldn’t find the picture of Big Al’s. I know–duh. (You can see a good picture of it, too, by clicking on the marker.)

    I’ll also add this link: It contains four photos—two of the outside lights; one of the candlelight vigil, and one of the missing person’s poster. You can enlarge them by clicking on them for a better view.
    Facebook ~ Photos of Outside lights on for Amber
    The small bottom photo in picture #4 is a picture of Amber, taken just before she went out that night.

  45. nan11 says:

    Snoops: 😳 Me again. I see the link for the Acme Mapper didn’t work. I will try once more:

    Acme Mapper–“A” is Dooly’s and “B” is Big Al’s

  46. nan11 says:

    Snoop: This link is for a write-up on the CBC website. A portion of the second link contains the news cast where the interview is shown. (At least I think so–‘puter doesn’t let me watch CBC videos.)

    At least I can say the write-up is interesting.
    CBC News ~ Kirwan’s boyfriend questioned in her disappearance
    Last Updated: Oct 12, 2011 7:59 PM AT
    Quote:
    Campbell said he understands that he is considered a person of interest in Kirwan’s disappearance, but he said he has been completely honest with police.

    Campbell blames himself for not trying harder to locate her the night she went missing.

    “I should’ve been there. I should’ve waited longer around there. I should’ve tried harder to skim up and down that road,” he said.
    End of Quote

    If you’re lucky enough to be able to watch the video, I think it starts somewhere around the three minute mark.
    CBC News VIDEO: Maritimes Late Night – October 12, 2011

  47. nan11 says:

    Snoop: See the following quote regarding areas where they were searching yesterday: “Pictou county ground search and rescue crews were searching near the Trenton connector Wednesday for Amber Kirwan.

    That appears to be a road, so I put pin “C” on it in the map.

    Google Map–Showing: A representing Dooly’s; ‘B’ representing Big Al’s; and ‘C’ representing the Trenton Connector.

    ACME Mapper–Showing ‘Hybrid’ view of area.

    It seems to be a large wooded area, and too far to walk. 😐

  48. Nan11~~holy smokes, you sure have been busy today. I guess you will need a raise in sleuth pay. I am about to start checking all the links out…thank you, thank you…

  49. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is a little update on Amber. The RCMP major cime unit has become involved. That’s good news on one hand; and on the other–maybe not so good. IYKWIM

    New Glasgow News ~ RCMP major crime unit joining in investigation
    Sub-Heading: Ground search and rescue teams not on patrol today
    Published on October 12, 2011
    Quote:
    UPDATE – Thursday, Oct. 13, 2:44 p.m. – There is no new information in the investigation into the disappearance of Amber Kirwan at this time. Search and rescue volunteers are no longer searching the area and the RCMP’s major crime unit has joined forces with the New Glasgow major crime unit in the investigation.
    End of Quote

  50. Nan11~~if Amber is still alive, I don’t think she is anywhere in the Maritimes. I am glad they have called the RCMP in to help in their investigation. They are highly skilled in what they do.

    Have you heard any mention of Amber’s parents?

  51. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Nope, I haven’t heard anything about Amber’s parents, or Mason’s–for that matter. To me, they seem so young. I can only guess that the parents just need to keep their distance.

    I find it strange that there were no ground searches today. Gosh, they could try divers in the river or something, anything.

    It seems to me that they are waiting for the results to come back from whatever they found yesterday. 😦

  52. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I came across this with a short ‘statement’ from Amber’s parents.

    Family of missing New Glasgow woman reaches out
    News 95.7 Staff ~ Oct 13, 2011 05:15:43 AM
    Quote:
    In an email to News 95.7 Thursday afternoon, Marj, Donnie and Liam Kirwan released this statement:

    “Our family appreciates all of the community support and the efforts of the police and others involved in the search for Amber. Please, do NOT give up on Amber. Keep her in your thoughts, your prayers and conversations. Every poster hung and Facebook posting with her picture keeps her face out there. She is our sweet little girl, and all we want is for our baby to return to us safe and sound.”
    End of Quote

    This write-up says that they did continue the search today.
    Quote:
    Nearly 100 searchers scoured an expanded area Thursday that included woods and the East River.
    End of Quote

  53. nan11 says:

    Snoops: This is a new article and video. It doesn’t contain any new information, but the video has some new pictures of Amber. She’s so pretty, Snoops–what happened to her? I just want to put my fist through a wall or something. 😦
    Global Maritimes (Write-up and Video) ~ Candlelight vigil for Amber Kirwan held in New Glasgow
    Thursday, October 13, 2011 8:07 AM
    Quote:
    Searches have been conducted in New Glasgow, Trenton and the Hillside area, just outside Trenton.

    Sniffer dogs were used to search abandoned buildings in New Glasgow and rescue boats have been combing the East River.
    End of Quote

    Also, between the write-up and the video, it does seem to confirm that a search was done today. However, it’s sounds to me like it was a purely volunteer effort.

  54. Nan11~~if Amber was abducted and harmed, the person who may have disposed of her body would have gone far away from New Glasgow. These people watch tv and crime shows and are getting smarter. I can see a body being disposed of in East River if it has a strong current. The remains would be carried for miles downstream before it ever came to the surface and ended up on a river bank. If Amber was abducted, the person who took her had a four hour head start in getting out of the area. By road, that would take them to northern N.B. or as far as Sidney Mines in Cape Breton. Along that Cabot Trail would be the ideal place to get rid of a body that would never be found. I hope that all my theories are farfetched and Amber just needed to get away and will be found alive.

    I would also like to know if Amber had a good relationship with her parents, if her parents are still alive. Did she move in with her boyfriend with her parent’s blessings? Was Amber dealing with any emotional problems? There are so many things to take into consideration when a young woman just up and vanishes.

    I expect LE questioned the boyfriend, Mason, and had him account for his whereabouts from 1;30am until Amber was finally reported missing at around 5pm on Sunday. One thing that Mason said which I found rather unusual, “If we are still looking for her a year from now.” That sounded very negative. One other thing, unless he had to work at his job, what was so pressing that he did not accompany Amber to Dooly’s on Saturday night? A young man generally likes to be with his steady girl especially on a Saturday night.

    These are just my own private opinions and in no way are meant to accuse anyone of wrongdoing.

  55. Nan11~~Amber is such a beautiful girl. The picture of her and the cat broke my heart.

  56. nan11 says:

    Snoops: These two links are actually from earlier this morning than my two previous comments–but I thought I would add them anyway. (Sorry I missed them earlier.)

    After reading these through, I’m really am inclined to believe the New Glasgow News when they said there was no search today. Both of these articles refer to the ‘100’ man search from yesterday.

    (I know, I’m confused again–I seem to be confused a lot lately). 😉

    The Chronicle Herald ~Search for missing New Glasgow woman expands
    Thu, Oct 13 – 5:03 AM
    Quote:
    A candlelight vigil was held Wednesday night for a missing New Glasgow woman.

    About 100 people gathered at Glasgow Square in the town as efforts to find Amber Kirwan continue.

    snipped

    While one media outlet reported that articles of Kirwan’s clothing had been found, Const. Ken MacDonald of the New Glasgow police cautioned that nothing had been forensically identified and that searchers are bound to come across old discarded clothing.

    “At this point it is still a missing persons investigation,” said Const. MacDonald.
    End of Quote

    From this one we learn that Mason is 20 years old–that’s the first time I’ve heard his age.
    Pictou Advocate ~ Police say Kirwan case still considered missing person
    Posted on October 12, 2011
    Quote:
    Kirwan, a student at the NSCC, was reported missing by her parents Sunday evening after she did not show up to meet her boyfriend, Mason Campbell, 20.
    End of Quote

  57. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I would like to see them get some divers in that river; but there are so many large wooded areas in the general vicinity that they must want to clear them first. {sigh} The cold weather is coming, I think they need to hurry.

    The thing is, people who do terrible things often don’t think them through. I would start by interviewing as many people who were at the club that night as I could find. If they just ran an add in the local paper, I’m sure almost everyone would turn up. Just have a talk with them–who did she dance with? Did she play pool–with who? What about people from school and her job? Who was she associating with when she wasn’t with her long-time friends and her boyfriend?

    Chances are it wasn’t a random stranger that just dropped in town that night. It could be someone much older, who was watching her for a while. Someone with ties to the community that wouldn’t want to leave.

    I don’t like the way they found her clothes and shoes all strown about. (I know that’s not confirmed yet.) It’s as if someone were throwing her things out of a car window to get rid of them.

    What really bugs me is how did someone get her. It wasn’t really that far a walk–it just doesn’t seem to really fit that she would have gotten in the car with a stranger when she knew her boyfriend was just a little ways ahead. A stranger could have forced her in the car but she could have screamed–there must have been other people around at that time.

    It really leaves someone she knew and freely hopped in the car with–trusting (and probably knowing) that person.

    My Opinion Only, of course.

    And my deepest prayers go out on her behalf–may she be alive and well and on her way home right this minute.

    FYI: See comment of 5:26 pm, for a short message from her parents (and mayber her brother).

  58. Nan11~~I must have missed your 5:26pm comment when I was typing my long winded one. Thanks so much for letting me know. My God, her parents must be going through hell. Life is just not fair at times and we have so many deranged people out there. Do we really know our neighbors?

  59. Nan11~ ~thought you may want to know this since you do most of the work in here…*smile

    Stats for: Amber Kirwan, N.S. girl missing
    1,627 total views

  60. eastcoastdeb says:

    Amber’s photo and description of what she was wearing was posted on every floor, elevator and door of the hospital the following morning. It’s EVERYWHERE. There isn’t anyone in this county who doesn’t have her face memorized.

  61. nan11 says:

    Snoops: The following two links are brief updates.

    The CBC article says it doesn’t appear that any ground searches were done yesterday (Thursday), but that the search is still ongoing.
    CBC News ~ No ground search for missing New Glasgow woman
    Posted: Oct 13, 2011 11:18 PM AT | Last Updated: Oct 13, 2011 11:14 PM AT
    Quote:
    Ground searches for missing New Glasgow woman Amber Kirwan didn’t appear to be conducted Thursday, but police say the investigation into her disappearance is ongoing.
    End of Quote

    This article seems to focus on the ‘Facebook’ community, and the spreading rumors.
    New Glasgow News ~ Still no answers
    Sub-Heading: Friends still searching for missing woman
    Published on October 13, 2011 ~ Sueann Musick
    Quote:
    [Maggie] Chickness, who attends school at the Nova Scotia Community College in Dartmouth, has been manning the page on regular basis, posting updates and deleting negative comments.

    “I am trying to make sure negative people don’t post anything,” she said. “A lot of people believe the rumours and some people are so blatant. I can’t believe what some people will post.”

    She said police are still contacting her and other friends to check out facts about the evening and if she has any questions about rumours on the Internet, they have been good to answer her calls.
    End of Quote

  62. nan11 says:

    Snoops: The following link is for the forum: “Unsolved Canada”. Please don’t hesitate to remove this link (or any link), that you feel is inappropriate to your blog.

    See posts 7 & 8 on page 6: Mason’s mother appears to be posting in defense of her son.
    UnsolvedCanada . ca ~ Topic: Amber Kirwan – Missing in New Glasgow Oct. 9th 2011
    Quote from post #7, page 6:
    I am Mason’s ‘actual’ mother. I raised him. Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about. I have no problem logging in under my ‘actual’ name. How about you? Didn’t think so.

    You seem to think you are the only one who knows the truth? Have you spoken to the authorities? Didn’t think so. What exactly do you mean by the ‘wrong side of the tracks’? This again proves you don’t actually know Mason. {snipped…}
    End of Quote.

    Quote from post #8, page 6:
    All these questions have been asked and answered by police. You are not (and will not) get the whole story from a few sound bites on tv. Unless you are in law enforcement, you have not heard the ‘boyfriends story’.
    {snipped…}
    End of Quote.

    If something doesn’t break soon in this case, I see the direction it’s heading: ‘Unsolved’–A beautiful missing woman gone–just gone–with no one looking for her and no one requesting resolution. Sides will have been drawn, and we will all fear the repercussions if we overstep the boundaries.

    Lost in all this will be [just barely] 19 year old Amber Kirwan.

    Most of us understand that what we read is not ‘fact’–‘talk’ is cheap. However, ‘talk’ does keep information flowing and the channels open. Without it, it is all too easy for the authorities to toss the file in with the ‘cold cases’ and forget about it.

    Most of the above is My Opinion Only. My prayer is: Let’s bring Amber home.

  63. nan11 says:

    Snoops: The Chronicle Herald has a nice write-up this morning on Amber. Poignant, though.

    The Chronicle Herald ~ ‘We made mud pies together’
    Sub-Heading: Lifelong friend at wits end with worry over missing New Glasgow girl
    By AARON BESWICK Truro Bureau ~ Fri, Oct 14 – 5:03 AM
    Quote:
    Ground Search and Rescue crews from across Nova Scotia finished searching a total of 18 square kilometres of woods and fields on Wednesday and have been sent home, at least temporarily.

    “Being around other people and doing something — anything — helps,” [Katelyn] Taplin said.

    “But at the end of every day, when nothing has come from it, you feel empty.”
    End of Quote

  64. nan11 says:

    Snoops: This is a very brief update, primarily stating that there are no new developments concerning Amber. It does repeat the Facebook posting from her parents–which I have quoted below.

    New Glasgow News ~ Still no answers
    Sub-Heading: UPDATE – Friday, Oct. 14, 9:00 a.m.
    Quote:
    The family of missing county teen Amber Kirwan pleaded for people not to give up on their daughter.

    A statement, released via Facebook from her parents, Marj and Donnie, and brother, Liam, says, “Our family appreciates all of the community support and the efforts of the police and others involved in the search for Amber. Please, do NOT give up on Amber. Keep her in your thoughts, your prayers and conversations. Every poster hung and Facebook posting with her picture keeps her face out there. She is our sweet little girl, and all we want is for our baby to return to us safe and sound.”

    Kirwan, 19, went missing early Sunday morning when she left Dooly’s to walk to Big Al’s, where she was supposed to meet with her boyfriend. She never arrived.

    Const. Ken MacDonald said that there were no new developments in the missing persons case overnight.
    End of Quote

  65. nan11 says:

    Sara: I’ll share a story: A few years ago I went camping with a friend. First night in the biggest campground I was ever in–right around dusk I decided I was going to go to the ladies room to remove my contacts. Off I went–I arrived back after midnight. I had gotten myself lost and had been walking for hours.

    The fire was out, my buddy was sleeping. In the morning, I asked him: “Weren’t you even a little bit concerned about where I was?” He replied: “Nope”.

    Now had I been harmed, thrown away, and unable to find my way back, I am absolutely positive that he would have gotten up in the morning and left that campground without me, or without even sounding an alarm. In his mind, I would have been the deserter.

    I think guys think like this, especially young guys. Throw in a little bit of alcohol, and you’ve got a big problem.

    My point is, my buddy–or the person I thought of as my buddy–wouldn’t have been the one that harmed me.

    Just food for thought.

    Also, if I was living with someone, I think I might say I planned on spending my life with that person. I had planned it–prior to moving in with him. jmo

  66. Nan11~~wow, I just finished reading some of the comments at that link you provided. It seems that some dirty laundry is starting to surface and that is a shame. The main focus is to bring Amber home safely. Mud slinging is certainly not going to help the situation. I am glad that the RCMP have become involved. They are good at piecing all the information together and to expand on certain evidence and statements that are proven to be factual. It is natural for Mason to be looked at as a person of interest. It is the same when a child goes missing, the parents have to be eliminated first and foremost. I wonder if Mason has taken a polygraph.

  67. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is a recent update. They have raised a reward for information about Amber. That might ‘flush’ out a little more information for law enforcement to work with.

    New Glasgow News ~ Still no answers
    Sub-Heading: Friends still searching for missing woman
    Quote:
    UPDATE – Friday, Oct. 14, 4:20 p.m.A $5,000 reward has been put up by friends of the Kirwan family who want to see the 19-year-old Pictou County come home.

    Sherry Blinkhorn, owner of Blinkhorn Real Estate, said she decided Thursday evening that a reward would be effective in leading to information about Amber Kirwan’s whearabouts. She said she posted the idea on Facebook and within 45 minutes $5,000 was raised.

    After speaking with a lawyer and bank today, Blinkhorn decided to cap the reward a $5,000 and it will go to person who leads police directly to Kirwan’s whereabouts. She said all information should go directly to the police or Crimestoppers.

    Meanwhile, the police are continuing their investigation with no new rewards to report at this time.
    End of Quote

    FYI: I don’t know if they would tell the public about a lie detector test. (I’ve never really heard of anyone taking one–on this side of the border.)

  68. nan11 says:

    Snoops: This is a new write-up, I think. So, okay, he knew immediately that something was wrong–then what did he do? I heard he made his was home and went to bed. 😐

    Sometimes I think this was a stranger abduction, and other times I just don’t know.

    News 95.7 ~ Boyfriend of missing New Glasgow woman clinging to hope
    Staff ~ Oct 14, 2011 05:13:16 AM
    Quote:
    “I knew immediately, right away, something was up,” he said.
    End of Quote

    Quote:
    “In the eight minutes it took me to get there and the two seconds it took her to walk up that way, with so many people around and such a short time frame, it has to be that someone picked her up,” he said.
    End of Quote

  69. Nan11~~to tell you the truth, I haven’t heard tell of anyone passing or failing a polygraph here in Canada. The RCMP keep everything close to their vest, so to speak, but it surprising that they do get the job done without the interference of media.

    Let’s say that Amber was abducted and harmed by some unknown. The perpetrator can read the blogs and news outlets and get all the information he or she needed to move a body or take off elsewhere. I still have a strong feeling that Amber is not in Nova Scotia, alive or deceased.

  70. Nan11~~I guess that I belong to the old school. I am Mason Campbell… I am home having a few drinks or in bed, whatever, and I get a call from my live in girlfriend to come and pick her up. Amber is the girl I truly love and want to marry some day. My girlfriend said she would be waiting at Big Al’s , just a couple minutes walk from Dooly’s. I arrive at Big Al’s and Amber is no where to be seen. ( Now, is Big Al’s open and possibly Amber popped in there to buy some gum- but I don’t bother to check)… I then dial the number that Amber called me from but there is no answer so I send a text msg to that phone. I knew something had to be up right away! This was out of character for Amber. Oh well, I will go home and go back to bed.

    If the above is factual, what seems very wrong with it?? Maybe I am reading Mason’s immaturity all wrong and this is how young people think and act nowadays.

  71. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Well, I’ll tell you that I am absolutely shocked that law enforcement are not doing ground searches for Amber. We are only in the sixth day of her being missing–and it’s the second day that they have not searched.

    It doesn’t make sense to me. I wonder if they are thinking that she ran away?

    It seems that they stopped searching almost the minute they found whatever it was they found. They said they needed to do testing to make sure it is ‘connected’ to this case. So they stop searching in the mean time?

    I just never heard the like.

    I don’t know, Snoops, maybe you’re not the only one with a strong feeling she is no longer in Nova Scotia.

    I hate to type this, but I think she is there–but not the way we would like to find her. MOO, of course.

  72. nan11 says:

    Snoops: When you put it altogether like you did in your comment–it really is pathetic, isn’t it. Guys can be such uncaring blocks, though. (jmo)

    Just a few things–they are saying that there is a video showing Amber leaving Dooly’s and heading toward Big Al’s. They also say that there is a video of Mason waiting at Big Al’s. They do not say how long he waited. They say Amber never showed up on any video from Big Al’s.

    Of course, no video’s have been released–so this is not confirmed.

    Now, take this with a grain of salt because I can’t confirm it right now–but, iirc, one of Amber’s friends did respond to the text message Mason sent. I don’t remember her exact wording but she told him Amber had already left for Big Al’s. (I’m quite sure I read that in a new article. I have something to do for the next few minutes, but I’ll look for it as soon as I’m free and let you know for sure.)

    One thing I’ll say for all those kids–they are young. They think nothing bad will ever happen to them. They have a few drinks and they take big risks. Not judging–but, been there and done that myself. (Maybe even when I wasn’t so young.)

    Prayers for Amber.

  73. nan11 says:

    Snoops: This must have been the article that I remembered, but while she [Maggie Chickness] says that Mason texted her to say that Amber had never showed up at Big Al’s–she doesn’t specifically state that it was that same night. After receiving the text, Miss Chickness ‘figured’ Amber had gone somewhere else. As she continues, she explains that Mason contacted her again the next morning to say Amber had never returned to their Pictou Landing home.

    So, maybe there is different ways one could interpret that.

    New Glasgow News ~ Boyfriend questioned in Kirwan’s disappearance
    Published on October 11, 2011
    Quote:
    “We were standing outside Doolys in a group and we were getting ready to leave and she said she was going to meet her boyfriend at Big Al’s,” Chickness said. “We told her we would walk up with her and get our cab from there but she said not to worry. She would be fine.”

    Chickness said there was a large crowd standing outside the bar at the time and she never thought about her friend again until Campbell texted her and asked if she’d seen Kirwan.

    “He said she never showed up at Big Al’s,” she explained.

    Chickness said she figured that Kirwan went somewhere else but when Campbell contacted her again the next morning to say she never returned to their Pictou Landing home, she started to take the situation much more seriously.
    End of Quote

  74. Nan11 ~~it appears that Mason texted Chickness that night or around 1:30am. Some young people are more prone to read a text than answer their phones. I hope and pray there will be a break in this case soon. Amber’s loved ones must be out of their minds with worry just wondering if she is being held against her will or her body lying out in some field. I guess we all hope for that small miracle but each day those hopes begin to wane.

  75. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Re ~ your comment of 5:59 pm. I went back and read it again–it really is interesting.

    Let’s ‘assume’ Amber’s friends were still outside the club waiting for their cab when Miss Chickness receives Mason’s text that Amber hasn’t shown up at Big Al’s.

    What does she reply? ‘She’s on her way.’ ‘She should be there any minute.’ I can’t see her texting that ‘maybe she went somewhere else.’

    Mason says he knew something was wrong ‘right then and there.’ So what happens next? He goes home and goes to bed?

    {Sigh} See, this is where it goes wrong for me and I want to punch a wall.

  76. nan11 says:

    Snoops: As I was scrolling up to revisit some of the links, I noticed that you had left me a message saying one wasn’t working. I apologize for that–you’ll have to leave me notes in bright red. LOL

    I do try to check them right after I post them–but I guess I forgot that one. 😳

    Anyway, here it is. This one should work.

    CBC News ~ Kirwan’s boyfriend questioned in her disappearance
    Posted: Oct 12, 2011 4:54 PM AT ~ Last Updated: Oct 12, 2011 7:59 PM AT
    Quote
    “I haven’t slept since Saturday. I have been having trouble remembering, you know, what I’ve done from the time she went missing, the next day when I started searching,” he [Mason Campbell] said.

    “I’ve had trouble picking out bits and pieces of what I was doing completely that day. But for the most part they have every bit of my information — everything I’ve done, any leads I’ve followed up on, any calls I’ve gotten. They know everything.”
    End of Quote

    They’ve updated it once since I posted it, but I’m pretty sure it’s the same article.

  77. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Please feel free to delete this if you feel it is not appropriate. Some of the comments are interesting.

    Eyes for Lies Blog ~ Amber Kirwan: Missing
    Friday, October 14, 2011 ~ by Eyes at 12:15 PM

  78. Nan11~~it is hard to tell if Mason is so tired and just running on adrenaline and that is why he doesn’t seem to be making much sense in what he says. It is probably too early to focus on his body language as an indication if he is being truthful. God forbid if Dr Glass comes across this case. LOL

  79. For any first time commenters in here. You will be held in moderation until your comments are approved. Once the initial approval has taken place, your comments will go through automatically. If you make a comment and it does not show up, that indicates that the content was not appropriate. To Wally- I did let one of your comments go thru when you used another name as you can see upthread. The one in which you referred to me as an ‘old turnip’ was trashed. LOL

  80. eastcoastdeb says:

    There are two rumours circulating today. One is that she’s been found safe. The other is that her body was found. I don’t know if this explains the lack of searching, but I hope not.

  81. If Amber has been found dead or alive, it would be breaking news as the public who have been putting their efforts into searching would have the right to know. I do not put much stock in rumors and do my best to avoid them,

  82. Louise says:

    Just wondering if Amber’s call to Mason was made to a cell phone or land line?

  83. Louise~~Amber used one of her friends cell phones at Dooly’s to call Mason and ask him to pick her up at Big Al’s. Mason said he called that friends number back and there was no answer so he sent a text to it. That was when Mason said that Amber was not at Big Al’s. I believe the friend’s last name is Chickness but I stand corrected.

  84. Louise says:

    I think your answer means that Mason also “received” the initial call, from Amber, on a cell phone as well and not a land line right ?

  85. Louise~ ~ yes, Mason rec’d the call from a cell phone and not a land line. Law enforcement can take the friends cell phone and verify what time Amber made the call to Mason. They would also take Mason’s cell phone into evidence to see all the incoming and outgoing calls made from his cell plus text messages he made and rec’d. LE can subpoena the records from the phone company. I wonder if Mason went back home and went to bed or was that just a rumor?

  86. Isabel says:

    I read the news everyday to see if there is anything new on Amber Kirwan, I hope the the police has had interviews with everyone that left Dooley’s. My heart goes out to the Kirwan family, and I prayer for Amber’s safe return. I am trying to understand why her boyfriend did not just pick her up at Dooley’s or at least walk there to meet her. I heard his comments on TV and I hope that he is telling the truth. Of course he would be the major suspect, but that does not mean that he did anything wrong. I know that there is at least one person who knows where she is, her abductor. The outpouring from the community of Pictou County is absolutely amazing. I will continue to pray for her safe return. To the Kirwan family, you are in our prayers. God bless.
    Isabel

  87. Isabel~~ Mason was not allowed to drive after midnight, a stipulation on his driver’s license. The permit and insurance had expired so he felt if he picked Amber up at Big Al’s, he may avoid being stopped for a vehicle check. He also said that he had had a couple of drinks.

    Sadly, young people are so carefree and trusting and it wouldn’t cross their mind that an abduction could happen in their own backyard and in a small town they are so familar with.

    Did Amber accept a ride to Big Al’s from someone she knew? Did someone force her into their vehicle or did an altercation take place between her and Mason when he picked her up? Those are just some of the questions that need answers. Of course, there is always the possibility that Amber went willingly and decided to leave New Glasgow and is hiding out somewhere.

    The pieces of clothing that were found have been sent off to the crime lab for DNA testing and verification to see if they are connected to this case. I believe they were found in different areas during the searches. I am not sure how long this will take but it may rule in or rule out foul play.

  88. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I have a new map made. I think the link should work. I tried to review all the locations (using the news articles) that it was said searches were conducted, and I marked each one on the map with a marker.

    I did add one ‘rumored’ location–see Ping Marker ‘B’. It is being bantered about that this is the location where one shoe was found. Now, even if that turns out to be false, it is a great ‘ping marker’ to left click on. Once you enter street view, you can use your mouse to go in a circle and you can actually ‘walk’ (click to advance when necessary) from Dooly’s to Big Al’s.

    My heart is in my mouth and my prayers are with Amber. No woman should walk that route alone at night. Not in this day and age.

    http://g.co/maps/vvx8r
    A: Dooly’s
    B: Possible location of shoe find (rumor only)
    C: Big Al’s
    D: Tibbets Paints building on Glass Street
    E: Trenton
    F: Trenton Connector
    G: Pictou Landing Road

    H: Frasers Mountain
    I: Abercrombie
    J: Stellarton Road

    It was published in a write-up that Amber and Mason lived in the Pictou Landing area. I’m not sure if it would be the Pictou Landing Road–but I marked the beginning of that road as Ping Marker “G”. It is a very long and circular road, but it is interesting to note the path heading from Ping Marker “A” to Ping Marker “G”. Ping Markers “H”, “I”, & “J” would be the opposite direction; so, that is why I put a space between these in my list. (If that makes any sense.)

    I did come across a few more interesting rumors that I can’t seem to stop myself from repeating–Mason may have been busy that night because he was at a house party, and he may have had someone with him when he went to pick Amber up.

  89. Ana P says:

    This was just posted on the facebook page …

    “Does anyone know why there’s cops cars, a k9 unit, forensic science trucks, and helicopters, in the woods on heathbell road past lyons brook?? And why was all the search and rescue just called to meet there immediately?”

    They are now posting that ‘they’ heard on the scanner
    water search & rescue crews have been called as well as RCMP helicopter …ASAP
    nobody knows why or what is going on!
    They are looking in the water.

  90. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I just dropped into WebSleuths–some posters are saying they are listening to the scanner and they think they have found something. I’m going to see if I can find the link or find out more info.

    I just wanted to drop in to let you know.

    Here is another link–I just added the possible location is Ping Marker “K” to the map I just linked:
    http://g.co/maps/96qvw

    It’s quite a ways away. Oh dear. This is not good news. 😦

    Maybe it’s nothing though.

  91. Ana and Nan11~~if you can find out anything new, please come back and post it here… Thank you!

  92. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is a scanner link. Posters at WebSleuths are saying they called in a forensics team and everything. If that is true, they’ve found something.
    http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?action=wp&feedId=6773

    Here is an article from the ‘New Glasgow News’ with a very little mention of it:
    Balloons for Amber
    Published on October 15, 2011
    Quote:
    The K-9 united was spotted up the Heathbell area Saturday, but MacDonald said all information and tips given by the public are being investigated which will determine its relevance to the case.
    End of Quote

  93. Ana P says:

    There has been talk about a report at 6:00pm on the CTV and CBC news.

  94. Ana P says:

    Also, the police were apparently making the rounds earlier today, collecting more statements.

  95. Thanks Ana~~I just turned on ATV news… I am just outside Halifax, btw. I appreciate your help.

  96. Okay, I am monitoring the scanner to see what I can hear. ATV news menitoned Amber missing for a week but it wasn’t their lead in story. It is on now…Dan MacIntosh is reporting…nothing about finding anything…$5000 reward… no breaking new in the case … they may be following up on a tip…LE has to check everything out…. maybe we will find out something later…

  97. nan11 says:

    Snoops and Ana: I turned it on as quick as I could, too. What do you make of that? They seem to be implying that it’s nothing more than a routine search.

  98. I have the scanner on… they mentioned water rescue….not ‘recovery’…

  99. Ana P says:

    “They seem to be implying that it’s nothing more than a routine search”

    I think that is standard procedure. They will wait until they are ready to make a statement. I suspect that the police had this case figured out from very early on, probably the first or second day. They just needed time to conduct a search for Amber and find evidence.

  100. nan11 says:

    Ana, thanks. Yes, I think the reports of it only started leaking out around 4:00 pm. (Atlantic Time)

    They will have to notify her family first–so, I don’t think they have really had time yet.

    I don’t know if they would have any other missing persons in the area, either–it could always be something that. I doubt it, though.

  101. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Rescue? Well, that’s interesting. (And surprising.)

  102. Ana~~I am not sure if you are from the New Glasgow area but, without mentioning any names, do you feel that the RCMP will be charging anyone soon? I have to remain somewhat neutral but already have formed an opinion on what I think may have happened.

  103. If they recover Amber’s remains, I doubt if they would put that out over a scanner. Everything is all computized here so we cannot hear transmissions from the police to headquarters.

  104. nan11n says:

    Snoops: ‘New Glasgow News’ has an update up–but I can’t get on the server. I saw a little clip and they do seem to be confirming that at least the search has to do with Amber.

  105. Nan11~~water rescue could be just a name assigned to a command post that was set up. It will be interesting to find out what LE was following up on. We still may hear something later tonight as they can search with high powered lights.

    Where exactly is Heathbell Road and Lyons Brook in relation to New Glasgow?

  106. nan11n says:

    Snoops: My last comment is in moderation. Sorry, I don’t know how that happened.

    I went back and read the little clip again and it says that one lone RCMP officer is stationed at the beginning of the dirt road. (In the Scotch Hill area, leading to Heathbell.)

    They say there is still a little bit of police tape left.

    So, I guess it’s over, but they might be going to guard it until morning–or perhaps they are waiting for another team of experts to arrive.

  107. Ana P says:

    Hi, I’m actually in Halifax. Don’t have any inside info, but I think something will happen quickly.

  108. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I was going into moderation but I okay now. (Actually, I think they have disappeared into spam.) I have a couple of comments in there. 😆

    Sorry about that–I had an extra ‘n’ in my name.

    http://g.co/maps/4ah6z

    See “K” and “L” on my map. “A” is Dooly’s.

  109. nan11 says:

    Snoop: I finally got through to NG News. I copied the whole article while I was there because the server is so busy.

    New Glasgow News ~ Police called to Scotch Hill area Saturday
    Published on October 15, 2011
    Quote:
    HEATHBELL – A lone RCMP officer is stationed at the end of a private woods road Saturday evening in the Heathbell area, near Scotch Hill.

    The police K-9 unit had been in the area earlier in the day and some police tape is left going down the wooded road.

    It’s believed that the activity is in relation to the search of missing Pictou County teen Amber Kirwan. The 19-year-old has not been seen for a week, since she left friends at Dooly’s around 1:30 a.m. Sunday morning, heading towards Big Al’s to meet her boyfriend. She never arrived.

    Police say that they are continuing to investigate all information from the public.
    End of Quote

  110. Nan11~~I let you out of moderation. I have been reading comments at this forum… some are interesting but I noticed that there is also a lot of controversy and bickering back and forth which I just skim over… I copied the following as it is very informative and was posted by someone who seemed to know the layout of the land … Here is the comment…

    Hello, all. I’m from New Glasgow, so I thought I’d answer a couple of questions about the area.

    Amber left her friends outside of Dooly’s around 1:30 a.m. The pool hall is on the corner of George Street (a one-way street up the hill) and Archimedes. She would’ve crossed at the lights, walked by a boarding house on her right and then the road slightly juts out, thanks to a realignment a year or so back, so there’s not a clear view of Big Al’s thanks to some trees. A car stopping just beyond that wouldn’t be questioned by anyone as there’s a yield where the road ends and turns into the two-way North Provost St.

    During her walk, on the left side of the road is the Elk’s Club – closed at that time – and a completely empty vacant lot where the old Commercial Equipment building was until this summer. People use it for parking now. As Amber neared the place the road juts out, on her left would be the legion – again closed – the legion parking lot and a used clothing store, with Big Al’s right up against that, although set back a bit from the road with parking out front. Not sure if Big Al’s cameras could see around the corner of the used clothing store – I doubt they would be pointed in that direction, I’d assume they’d be pointed towards its own parking lot.

    On Amber’s right – likely where she was walking, as that’s the side with the sidewalk and streetlights, she’d have no reason to cross before getting to Big Al’s, is again the boarding house, the little jut out, then a fenced area around some power poles, and an old house turned into apartments. There are some houses along that road – most are old, converted into apartments, and I would guess their owners are used to people screaming and hollering when the bars let out. I live about a 15 minute walk away, up in the “good” section up the hill, and we can sometimes hear them in the summers when the windows are open. Our court has actually cracked down on drunks who fight after the bars close because of the disturbance they cause to the neighbourhood. So I doubt anyone would really notice a scream. Beyond Big Al’s on the left, there’s the railway tracks and not much else. It’s all very close – it would really only take someone sober three minutes to walk it. Her friends say she only had one drink at the bar, but she was likely drinking beforehand, that’s what people do here. Her friend has said she wasn’t “super, super drunk” that night. So drunk, going a bit slower because she’s tired, I’d say it would still be no more than six minutes to get there.

    That section of town is dark, I drove it the other night and was really struck by just how dark that corner in particular really is. I don’t think anyone – no matter how many people were milling about outside Dooly’s that night – would’ve noticed if she’d been grabbed into a car, especially if it happened right at that corner where the road turns into another and the brush blocks it from view. If she was grabbed, I think it happened there. Interestingly, that’s also where the police found the shoe.

    Once you turn that corner, however, you’re out of sight of the traffic from downtown. It’s pretty empty and lonely.

    I’ve got a couple theories. I think she was either grabbed there, at the corner, before she came in view of Big Al’s cameras, or maybe the car was driven by someone she knew. It was really warm that day, but the temperature dropped quickly that night and she didn’t have a coat. People in Pictou County – especially the ones born and bred here – know each other, and think nothing of stopping if someone is walking and offering a ride. Maybe she was cold, drunk, her feet hurt from dancing, the driver offered to wait with her, or she figured she could get a ride home before the boyfriend even left, and she got into the car willingly – and it was the wrong person to trust.

    It’s also incredibly likely she got to Big Al’s before the boyfriend and decided to keep on walking towards home, figuring he’d see her. That stretch of road is really lonely, as I said, particularly if she crossed the train tracks and went around the s-turn. Then she’d have a big graveyard on one side and houses set further back from the road. It’s another really dark corner.

    Let’s assume for a moment that no one grabbed her. What if she’s stumbling along, walking for home, and she falls out in the street? What if the timing is wrong and a drunk driver is coming along behind her and can’t stop, hitting her? What if he panicked, threw her in the car and dumped her somewhere? We have a LOT of drunk drivers here – likely why there’s no real outrage that the boyfriend himself had been drinking and was coming to get her – and there’s a lot of wooded areas. People make bad decisions when they’re drunk, I could see this scenario happening just as easily as someone grabbing her.

    For what it’s worth, I don’t think it was the boyfriend. I know he’s told the paper that someone else was in the car with him when he left the party they were at to go get her, but it’s not been reported in the paper because they can’t confirm that, police aren’t saying. With the mindset of these kids, it doesn’t surprise me that he drove to Big Al’s and waited there – it’s common for cops to either park outside Dooly’s or cruise by every few minutes as it lets out. It makes sense to me that when she didn’t show up and no one answered his phone call or text from the phone she used, that he figured she changed her mind and went on partying with the girls. After all, the best friend wasn’t too alarmed either.

    The first posters that went up had the boyfriend’s and the best friend’s phone numbers. The police didn’t issue the alert to the media to call crimestoppers until the next morning at 7 a.m. People were making the posters that Sunday night.

    That first day or two, some people thought maybe she went home with someone else and was embarrassed to show up, but that’s clearly not the case anymore, not after a week.

    The community seems to be split – people seem to want to think the boyfriend did something to her because domestic abuse happens and it’s a lot less scary than the other concept, that someone else, a stranger, took her. I don’t think this kid ran off, no one in the community does. How far could she get if she ran off in a pair of flats and a sweater, with very little money and not even a purse? Unless one of the wildest theories I’ve heard is true and she really just hopped a train.

    I wish you could see the downtown. It’s absolutely plastered with this girl’s face. I passed one power pole yesterday that had three posters, one on top of the other. There are billboards. There were two 12-year-olds, walking around downtown, wearing posters – honk for Amber.

    I don’t think we need more posters, not in this area. People are aware of her, trust me. But I think the kids want to do something, and posters and flyers are what they have. So they keep papering the area (I’d love to know who is going to take those down!) I see on the FB page, people have alerted Anderson Cooper, Oprah and the NHL (not sure what hockey players are going to do?) A lot of cars have her poster in them now, too. They’re all getting hysterical and feeding on each other, and it’s just mounting more and more. Not that they don’t have a right to – it’s scary! – but I worry they won’t be able to deal with things should the worst happen after such a prolonged state of absolute panic. There are rumours every hour about her body being found in the river (not sure why the river, specifically, seems to be the area of choice – it’s not too far, but it’s not exactly easy to get to unless you toss something over the George Street Bridge or the Connector). I actually find it interesting that they keep saying the river and not any of the wooded areas – wonder if someone knows something???

    I can understand the benefit and the fundraising, as well. That’s just what we do here – heck, there was a benefit this summer for someone with a broken leg. My coworkers and I called it two days before it was announced, that there would be one.

    The girl’s parents aren’t talking to the media – they released one written statement – and say that they’re considering speaking to the media but need to clear it with police. So far there hasn’t been anything else from them. I’m guessing that might happen Monday if nothing else breaks before then.

    Police have told the media that they frankly have nothing to go on. It’s like the girl vanished into nowhere.

    Read more here at source…

    http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=5383.75

  111. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Thanks for letting me loose. 😆

    That ‘comment’ you linked in your last post is where I got the rumors I mentioned above–and, it also inspired me to add “Ping B” to my map.

    Seriously, when you go into street view from that marker you can see every building she mentioned. I believe it’s really accurate.

    I missed the CBC news, (had to go out for a minute.) Did you catch it? I was wondering if they mentioned anything about Amber.

  112. Nan11~ ~ btw, your map links work fine for me. I notice New Glasgow is not really that far from the 104 highway. Did they say that Mason lives at Pictou landing? I still think that if Amber was abducted, she is long gone from the New Glasgow area.

    One other thing, if LE is trying to build a case against any one person, they have to make sure that they have enough evidence to lay charges. They cannot hold a person at the jail for more than 24 hours without charges being laid. Hmmmm….

  113. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Thank you for mentioning my link. I slaved over that. 🙂

    They didn’t really say that, Snoops, they said that Mason and Amber were from the Pictou Landing area. So, I’m not really sure that they live(d) in the Ping “G” area; but, I was shocked when I started marking the locations–notice how they go right ‘up’ to that area. Coincidence? Maybe.

    This isn’t nice to type, but I don’t think we’ll see an arrest until remains are found. If that never happens, I think we may see a ‘cold’ case. 😐

    Here is a link to the little news cast we all watched earlier. LOL A second time around didn’t hurt–at least I was calmer.
    CTV Atlantic ~ Dan MacIntosh on Missing Girl
    I think they rushed the video, because this little video player pops up and you have to click on the title. I didn’t see an write-up.

    And this. I’m not so impressed with this. Mr. & Mrs. Cox tried to support Josh in the beginning, iykwim. Just sayin’
    A talk with Mariea Leil-Bowser, the heart of the search coordination headquarters at the North End Rec Centre
    Quote
    She told me that people wishing to donate can choose whether to support Amber’s Family and Mason, or to put it towards the growing award being collected to offer to the person that comes forward to the RCMP with information that finds Amber.
    End of Quote

  114. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I see what you mean. I purposely wrote that a little vague. It bothers me a little bit–they have a fund set up so you can make a donation (only if you want to, of course), but they say the donation will be for Amber’s family and Mason.

    I suppose I shouldn’t have pointed that out, but people are just going on blind faith right now. We just don’t know yet. My Opinion Only, of course.

    Now I feel especially bad: Watch this little video that they made for Amber today at the balloon launch. The little girl at the beginning is Amber’s cousin.

    YouTube Video ~ Balloons for Amber/Human Ribbon for missing Amber Kirwan

    Oh, this is so sad, Snoops. These kind, decent people are all going to get their hearts broke, me thinks. (Well, who knows. Maybe I’ll be pleasantly surprised.)

  115. nan11 says:

    Snoops: On the ‘Unsolved Murders | Missing People’ forum, they are saying that Amber’s friend, Maggie Chickness, has posted on her Facebook that Amber has not been found. Some people are questioning why she thinks she would know. 😕

    Also, some are saying that the search will resume tomorrow–around 7:00 am. There is also some speculation that the search just suddenly ended–so, that makes me wonder.

    Anyway, I thought there were a few interesting comments. (I find that forum hard to read–tiny, tiny print.)

    I’ll add a link for convenience, in case someone else wants to take a peek. About page 13 for recent search comments:

    http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=5383.180

  116. Vicky says:

    This is so sad. It seems no one is safe to walk alone any more. I don’t think there will be a happy ending to this story. If in fact the shoe Found was hers, it sounds like she was abducted. My guess is someone from the bar followed her after overhearing her tell her friends she was walking alone to the convenience store. A crime of opportunity.
    While in England I listened to news accounts of the murder trial of a young woman, Joanna Yeates, who was murdered shortly after walking home alone. The accused was her neighbor. He killed her in her apartment. He says he killed her, but it wasn’t murder. Now make sense of that!

  117. Nan11~~I have read every comment at the Unsolved Murders Forum. Me thinks that a few are trying to pass themselves off as Columbo wannabees. * wink

    What I did find interesting….Some of the posters that were put up of Amber had Mason’s cell phone number on them as a person to contact. I hope they had crime stoppers number on them as well.

  118. Welcome back Vicky! I was beginning to wonder about you. Young people are too trusting and brave after they have had a couple of drinks. This case is puzzling and I never thought I would be following one in my own backyard.

  119. margaret says:

    Snoops and Nan11, You two are quite a team..I have been reading this sad ,sad story. I hope Amber is found safe, but it is looking doubtful. When I was 14 my best friend always spent Friday nights at my house, I lived about 4 blocks from movie theatre, on Saturday evening we would go to theatre and then walk about 2miles after dark to her house to spend the night. We never worried or were afraid to do that. These things just did not happen,, Now you can just open your front door and someone is ready to grab you.I wish young girls would use their head and not get themselves in this situation. Why didn’t some of her friends walk with her? So sad. I pray she is found alive. I will be keeping up with the case through your articles. Wonderful map connections Nan11.

  120. Margaret~~Nan11 and I are both Maritimers and this happened here in Nova Scotia. I have been listening to a police and fire scanner for Pictou County where Amber went missing. The fire dept just raced off to a house trailer fire. The trailer was a summer home and not in use. The first thing that crossed my mind was ‘ oh my God, I hope no one is burning a body.”

    Margaret, I was like you and walked over a mile, in the dark and all by myself from a friend’s house and never gave it another thought. I get shivers when I think of doing that today.

    Sherry just posted some info re Baby Lisa at the Coffee Café. They located the mysterious ‘handyman.’

  121. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Nothing new going on in the search for Amber, as far as I can tell. Everything is quiet. I guess we’re back to nothing but our prayers. 😐

    Those ‘early’ posters that went up did not have the Crime Stoppers number on them, nor the number for the local police. There are many, many of those posters out there–and there is some speculation that they are still being distributed.

    News 95.7 Staff ~ Boyfriend of missing New Glasgow woman clinging to hope
    Oct 14, 2011 05:13:16 AM
    Quote:
    “I’ve searched every bit of ground that search and rescue has covered, personally, myself,” he [Mason Campbell] said. “I’ve taken it upon myself to get in contact with everybody around that area.”
    End of Quote

    Listen to the things Mr. Campbell has said. For all intents and purposes, he is apparently being allowed to run his own search. I cannot, for the life of me, understand this. What will happen if he gets a tip first and arrives before law enforcement? I’ll tell you what will happen–either more people will be killed or all evidence at a murder scene will be destroyed.

    His mother openly posts on the ‘Unsolved Canada’ forum. Viciously attacking anyone who dares mention anything negative about her son. Sure, why not–she is coddled as a victim there herself. However, she knows where her son is, doesn’t she? He is well and free to run around drinking his beer and eating his pizza. Not to mention running his own search for Amber. Mrs. Campbell likes to say that there are many things we don’t know–well, I guess she is right if we have come to a point where ‘persons of interest’ can run there own concurrent investigation into the disappearance of the victim.

    The local law enforcement have advised the public that there is no reason to fear–everyone should continue on as if nothing has happened. You see–if the public is afraid, they have to find the funds to do something about it. Ask any member of any affiliated law enforcement group, if they would allow their daughters to walk alone at night; in that area or any area. I know what their answers would be.

    They are pleased to hear citizens support them when they say we have no right to know anything about any crime being currently investigated. This approach serves them well, and will continue to do so as long as we swallow it.

    My question is: Where is just barely turned 19 year old Amber Kirwan? This beautiful girl is missing. She did nothing wrong. She needs to be found.

    You’re darn tootin’ we have a right to ask questions and expect action.

    My Opinion Only, of course.

  122. nan11 says:

    Snoops: This is just the latest blurb from the ‘New Glasgow News’. I know this is trivial, but why do they refer to her as a nameless missing girl? This missing girl has a name. Her name is Amber Kirwan. She turned 19 years old in August, 2011. She is a person; a citizen of our country. She has a family who loves her. She deserves to be addressed by her name, and to be found.

    New Glasgow News ~ Update: Search for missing girl continues
    Published on October 15, 2011 | UPDATED – 9:30 a.m., Oct. 16
    Quote:
    Police are urging the public not to be too concerned when they notice police activity as the search for missing Pictou County teen Amber Kirwan continues.
    {…snipped}
    “Police are urging public not to draw any conclusions when they notice police conducting searched throughout Pictou County,” [Const. Ken] MacDonald [with New Glasgow Police Services] wrote in a release issued to media 9:30 a.m. Sunday.
    End of Quote

    This short write-up contains mostly pictures from the balloon event yesterday.
    New Glasgow Talks ~Balloons for Amber/Human Ribbon event a huge success, raises lots of money for Amber Kirwan
    Quote:
    The Balloons for Amber/Human Ribbon event, organized to raise money for the family of missing Amber Kirwan, was a giant success today. There were around 100 people in attendance.
    End of Quote

  123. Ana P says:

    “His mother openly posts on the ‘Unsolved Canada’ forum. Viciously attacking anyone who dares mention anything negative about her son. Sure, why not–she is coddled as a victim there herself. However, she knows where her son is, doesn’t she? He is well and free to run around drinking his beer and eating his pizza. Not to mention running his own search for Amber. Mrs. Campbell likes to say that there are many things we don’t know–well, I guess she is right if we have come to a point where ‘persons of interest’ can run there own concurrent investigation into the disappearance of the victim.” end quote
    ———————-

    nan11 – I am very surprised at content of your post at 10:17am. I have been following Unsolved Canada as well, and have seen Eva’s posts there and on other sites. I have to say that none of her posts have “viciously attacked anyone who dares mention anything negative about her son”. She is obviously upset and frustrated about the speculation, and wants people to stop making assumptions. I found her posts to be rather mild, and her words very measured. On the other hand, I do not find the your words to be measured or mild. You seem to be the one attacking. Please don’t make such emotional posts.
    Also, how do you know he is running around “drinking beer and eating pizza”? I have seen this rumour posted in various places, but I have seen nothing to suggest it is anything more than a rumour. Have you seen him doing this with your own eyes? This is the kind of thing Eva is upset about. I do not know Eva, but I don’t think she has done or said anything inappropriate. She is acting as any mother would who believes their child is innocent. Whether she is right, I don’t know.
    I certainly have my opinions about Mason’s actions on the night Amber disappeared and I find his behaviour and words in interviews to be very odd and I was/am very skeptical . It certainly makes him look suspicious based on typical reactions, but we don’t know the whole story yet and the police are not about to release information just to satisfy our curiosity. Also, Mason has not been named a person of interest by the police, though they may consider him one unofficially. It was Mason who stated that he “believed” police considered him a POI. Now people run with that.

    For you to say “persons of interest’ can run there own concurrent investigation into the disappearance of the victim” is a huge overstatement. I don’t think you know what Mason has or has not been doing. I am am sure he is searching just like everyone, but saying he is ‘running his own concurrent investigation’ is too much.

    I do think Mason should avoid media interviews and making comments. He is not doing himself any favours.

    Again, I don’t know any of the people involved, but I think we all need to be mindful of our words, and the gossip we repeat as being ‘fact’.

    We all want Amber to return home safely. Sometimes our emotions run too high.

  124. Ana P says:

    “What will happen if he gets a tip first and arrives before law enforcement?”

    I don’t this is a concern. I am sure that Mason is being watched by the police. His actions and electronic communications would be under constant surveillance. They may be watching other people as well.
    I hope this is resolved soon and with a happy outcome.

  125. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Another blurb about the missing girl.
    New Glasgow News ~ Update: Search for missing girl continues
    Quote:
    UPDATED – 12:08 p.m., Oct. 16

    HEATHBELL ROAD – Search and rescue workers are combing an area on the Heathbell Road at the request of the RCMP.

    There are not a lot of details about the search except that it is part of the overall investigation into the disappearance of Amber Kirwan.
    End of Quote

    Ana: I’m not going to apologize about my comment. Snoops can remove it if she wants. If you find the words of Mrs. Campbell more measured than mine then that is your opinion, and I will accept it.

    Formus and blogs do have a purpose, imo–they get people talking and keep the cases in the news. If that puts a little pressure on the powers that be, so be it. If anyone disagrees with me that a little pressure wouldn’t hurt; then, again, I will accept that as their opinion.

    Did you see the post this morning by a friend of the Campbell family dropping the “F” bomb like there was no tomorrow?

    I have no more reason to believe what Mrs. Campbell says she was told by the RCMP, than I do to believe what the reporter for the CBC wrote in his article. The CBC stated Mason was a person of interest.

    Personally, I do not think Mr. Mason Campbell is responsible for Amber’s disappearance. However, I also do not think he should be commended for his actions.

    No one knows right now what happened to beautiful Amber Kirwan. All we know is that she is gone. The RCMP need to do the rest.

    My Opinion Only, of course.

  126. Ana P says:

    Nan11 – I hope you don’t take offence at my previous response to your comments. I have followed this blog from the beginning and have found your posts to be very pertinent and well written. That made me more taken aback at that particular post. It seemed out of character. I guess we are all anxious and frustrated.

    We will probably hear something soon.

    I am going to go hug my kids!

  127. Ana P says:

    “Did you see the post this morning by a friend of the Campbell family dropping the “F” bomb like there was no tomorrow?”

    I did see that! I thought it was hypocritical to make comments like that while criticizing others. He could have made his point much better with a civilized comment.

    I agree that forums serve a purpose and I think we are free to share our opinions. I don’t even mind people posting a rumour, or an overheard comment. I just want the person to make it clear that what they are posting is a rumour or speculation, rather than stating it as fact.

    Why do you think Mason Campbell is not involved? Not saying I know any better. I just think he has painted himself in a bad light, which is unfortunate if he is innocent. That’s why I think he needs to stay away from making public comments.

  128. Emotions and frustrations are running high and that is to be expected. We all view things differently and that is what makes us unique in how we express our feelings which you are free to do here. I find some things about this case disturbing but it may be the way I am interpreting them. I did find Eva Campbell’s comments rather curt and Mason Campbell’s actions and words somewhat suspect but that is my own personal opinion. I appreciate the participation of all who come to my blog and do not find it necessary to edit or delete any of the above comments.

    P.S. ‘F’ bombs and profanity have never been allowed in this blog.

  129. Ana P says:

    Yes, I definitely agree Eva Campbell’s comments were curt, I just wouldn’t describe them as vicious. I know that if I believed my son was being unfairly accused (as she obviously does), I would have used much much stronger language in my reaction (right or wrong). I know when I first read her posts, I was thinking she was being more restrained than I would be in defending my child! LOL . As far as the accuracy of her comments, I have no idea.

    By the way, this is one of the most civilized blog I come across. A lot of them are troll zoos!

  130. Oh wow! I just read all the latest comment at the Unsolved Murders forum. Someone must have edited out the ‘F’ bombs. I notice that the focus has turned to Mason moreso than finding Amber. We know where Mason is but that is not the case with a beautiful young woman who may be being held against her will or her remains rotting in some unknown area.

    I just heard a call on the scanner re the missing person which I do not believe I can divulge here. All I can say it involves a young man who had a certain fantasy. LE are going to check it out now. Also Water Rescue are to return to the fire station and go 10-12.

    Regarding Mason, he should have stayed away from the media. In his state of mind, everytime he opened his mouth, he put his foot into it. A lot of his words were taken out of context or were they an indication that he may be covering a feeling of guilt that he did not make more of an effort to locate Amber when she was a no show? It may have been best for Eva Campbell to remain silent. As a result, damage control has taken place but not before people have formed detrimental opinions which they are freely airing on that forum. The discussion seems to be going around in circles and will do nothing to help in this investigation.

    When LE amasses enough evidence, we may see an arrest take place. One thing is for sure, LE must have substantial evidence to charge a person and keep them in custody. This can be done without an actual body being found as we have learned in other cases we have followed.

    LE works with facts and rumors ( and believe me there are many floating around) have to be checked out and verified before they will be considered to have any revelance. One other thing, Mason’s cell phone number should NOT have been on those posters. Mason does not have the qualifications to check out tips. All tips should be funneled through Crime Stoppers and Law Enforcement. Scattered forces impede an investigation so it is best left up to those who are trained in their field.

    Oops, I just fell off my soap box and landed smack on my tush. Ouch!

    PS..
    Ana~~thank you for the compliment on this blog. I do have a reputation of being an old prude but I wear that title proudly. Nan11’s input here is one of the reasons I stick it out. Without her help and compassion, I would have packed it in long ago.

  131. eastcoastdeb says:

    I can’t understand why they’re searching the Lyon’s Brook area. The Heathbell Road is fairly remote. They must have had a tip about it. It’s several miles from NG, so why chose this particular place when there are so many wooded areas in between?

  132. Someone made a comment that Heathbell Road is about a 30 minute drive from New Glasgow. It seems that Ground Search and Rescue were working today and will be back on the job tomorrow. Maybe someone called in a tip that a vehicle was seen in the Heathbell Road area early Sunday morning. Are there homes up in that area or is it all wilderness?

    If someone wanted to dispose of a body, they would pick a remote area knowing all the surrounding areas of New Glasgow would be searched as soon as the news went out that Amber was missing.

  133. eastcoastdeb says:

    There was a forenzic team, helicopters and water search at Scotch Hill Road. Prayers for Amber. May God spread his arms around her.

  134. Dave Knechel says:

    I wish I knew more about this case, but I don’t. I just pray to God that Amber returns home safely. Nova Scotia seems like such a nice place to live, and it is. Sadly, this sort of thing can happen anywhere today. It’s a small world, after all.

  135. Hi Dave, I never thought I would be following a case in my own backyard. I do not hold out much hope that Amber is still with us. There is the possibility though that she may have been snatched off the street and ended up in Montreal. It is not unheard of for pimps to kidnap young women and then hold them against their will.

  136. eastcoastdeb says:

    From news on the scanners, it sounds like it’s more of a recovery than rescue. Some are being asked to be relieved as if to protect the scene. Hopefully this is all overthinking on our part, but it doesn’t look good. There are many wooded areas between here and Scotch Hill so they must have had a tip on a suspicious car or something similar…. and you don’t search the water for live victims.

  137. Ana P says:

    I hope it is OK to post a comment from another blog site. Someone just posted this on Unsolved Canada. I don’t know if the person is being factual or not, but it’s very interesting…

    “What is bothering me right now, is the toll this is taking on the entire community, not to mention our kids. The way Mason is being portrayed in the media is certainly not the way his “friends’ behind the scenes are portraying him. It seems they are all afraid of implicating him because they are not sure what to think. He is very convincing to them. The part that they are not saying is how jealous he was of Amber and they witnessed his temper which is clearly not being shown on TV. It shows a guy trying to garnish sympathy that he is the victim. The true victim is Amber, her family and all her friends and the community that is working non stop around the clock trying to be helpful.

    There were other arguments about his jealousy towards Amber that the kids are holding back. They are also questioning the arrogance he is showing by simply dipping into the donation boxes taking out bills and directing friends to go buy him cigarettes with the money people have been so generous to donate. No one has mentioned that Mason used to live out in Scotsburn area and know all the back roads. Obviously police are focussing on not far from where he rents, to an area he knows well. No accusations here. Just stating the facts. The kids in this community are torn. Mason needs to stop changing his story to all of them and step up to the plate and tell the truth whether it implicates him or not. These kids are hiding something and looking out for one another. Feeling guilty about this entire thing, and not wanting their “friend” to be blamed for something they think there is a possibility he didn’t do.

    What are the chances in a well lit place, this girl was grabbed and no one saw anything? Really. The guilt the girls have is not walking her right to Big Al’s. If they had done so, at least they could see who she was last with. At this point they can’t and are all tortured about it. The Mason on the cameras is not what the young people off camera are describing. This is not helping the investigation or the family and friends. Please someone speak up regardless of your loyalties.”
    END QUOTE

    http://www.unsolvedcanada.ca/index.php?topic=5383.315

  138. Ana~~no problem at all posting from another site and giving a link to the source which I see that you did. Thank you. After reading that comment, it makes one stop and think. I just hope the truth will surface, maybe if that reward money grows a bit higher.

  139. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is a link for a news clip from the news this evening. I notice they said that there are still searches going on in the Pictou Landing area as well.

    CTV Atlantic Video ~ Dan MacIntosh on missing teen

  140. Nan11~~has anyone ever said where exactly Mason Cambell lives? How far is it from Dooly’s? Was he alone when he went to Big Al’s to pick up Amber? I don’t know facts from rumors now.

    The river looks some big where the divers were searching. A body becomes buoyant and then floats whichever way the current flows unless it was weighted down with something.

  141. Ana P says:

    Someone is saying on a different facebook page that Mason Campbell’s car is now being towed by the police.
    I thought police would have checked his car last week. Maybe a more thorough search?

    http://www.facebook.com/groups/127951840644652/

  142. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Where they live is just being discussed on the ‘Unsolved Canada’ forum. They are saying he lives near ‘Gut Bridge’–one of the areas the divers were in the water today. This is coming from the ‘locals’ posting on that forum–it has not been reported in the mainstream media.

    They are also saying some interesting things about the use of the funds by a certain person. I suspected this. 😦

  143. Ana P says:

    correction: They didn’t say it was the police towing it. I made that assumption. We will have to see. It might even be because he has continued to drive around with no insurance…

  144. nan11 says:

    Snoop: I’m back with my map. :mrgreen:

    Ping “G” is ‘Pictou Landing’. Rumor has it that he live only a stones throw from the ‘Gut Bridge’ in Pictou Landing. (Google has no knowledge of Gut Bridge so we have to settle for Pictou Landing.) It has been reported in the mainstream media that the ‘couple’ lived in the Pictou Landing area.

    It’s also being rumor that Mr. Campbell and his parents lived very close to ‘Heathbell’ (at one time), which is Ping “K”.

    http://g.co/maps/wuv6e

    FYI: I discovered today that if you drag that little man (in the top left of the map), over to the ping and drop him there–it goes right to ‘street view’ of the area. You can take a lovely look around.

  145. eastcoastdeb says:

    OMG that bridge is close to Scotchhill. I’m becoming more and more suspicious of the bf’s arrogant conduct. Amber went to school with my son and was a very nice girl. If she’s is deceased, I can tell you this – here will be a swarm of guys around him and he’ll be unrecognizable when the ‘good old boys’ are done with him. He’ll want to be taken into custody immediately

  146. nan11 says:

    Snoops: This is the latest from the New Glasgow News. It give a fairly good account of the search locations. Interesting.

    New Glasgow News ~ Search focusing on two areas
    Sub-Heading: One area near Kirwan’s home
    Quote:
    The search for Amber Kirwan intensified as police focused in on two locations in the county this past weekend.
    End of Quote

  147. Nan11~~I clicked on your map and took a grand tour of Pictou Landing Road and surrounding areas. What beautiful country out that way. It is hard to fathom that something so terrible had to have happened in those parts.

    I checked out Facebook and they have already convicted Mason. I will not be returning to FB for any updates any time soon. It is one thing to have suspicions but to outright accuse someone of murder is going too far.

  148. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I wish I could read them, but I can’t. Oh well, maybe I’m not missing much.

    It is beautiful, but it is very large and unpopulated. If they find her without a confession, Snoops, the RCMP will have done a good job.

    It is true that they shut the scanner down. (I checked.) I hoping the rumor is true about the police seizing his car.

    My only wish is that they would have gotten to it sooner.

  149. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is a couple of older videos with clips of Mason in them. I may have linked them before, but they are interesting to watch again in light of the recent discussion. 😉

    I also noted that his mother is as quiet as a church mouse tonight.

    Global Maritimes ~Police widen ground search for missing New Glasgow woman Amber Kirwan
    Dated: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:22 PM (Video at link—Natasha Pace reports)
    (Mason talks at about .57 minutes in)

    Candlelight vigil for Amber Kirwan held in New Glasgow
    (The Canadian Press) Thursday, October 13, 2011 8:07 AM (Video at link—Natasha Pace reports)
    (Mason talks at about 1:25 minutes in)

  150. They had every right to take Mason’s car. He broke the law when he drove to Big Al’s. In fact, he broke a few of them; driving under the influence and no insurance and registration plus he was prohibited from driving after midnight ( a stipulation on his driver’s license.) Did he feel that he would be exempt because he was about to report his girlfriend missing? This gives you a slight glimpse into his character and his respect for the law. I believe he is a 20 year old adult.

  151. Nan11~~I haven’t changed my mind since I first watched those interviews of Mason. The body language is not in sync with what is coming out of his mouth. JMO

  152. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Oh, I certainly agree. I read at WebSleuths that they showed up with a warrant for it. That’s not confirmed, of course, but I do believe it.

    Here are a few more links for videos on the day(s) Mr. Campbell gave all the interviews. I’ll just add them like this because I’m copying and pasting them from a word document. (I saved all the links to his videos.)

    I find it’s interesting to watch them one right after the other–just skipping to his ‘cameos’. (I can’t vouch for the CBC one–‘puter refuses to play it for me.)

    CTV News ~ Search Continues in New Glasgow for missing teen (The Canadian Press) (Dan MacIntosh reports) (Mason at about the .53 second mark & the 2:01 minute mark)
    http://watch.ctv.ca/news/#clip547123 Date: Tuesday Oct. [10] 11, 2011 AM ET

    CTV Atlantic: Search teams from across N.S. join effort to find missing teen (Dan MacIntosh reports)
    (Mason at about 1:29 minutes in.)
    http://watch.ctv.ca/news/#clip548555 Date: Wednesday Oct. 12, 2011 5:44 PM ET

    CBC | Oct. 12: http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Canada/NS/1305553631/ID=2152455374 (boyfriend)

  153. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I hope and pray that they find this young woman. If they don’t, I’ve got a feeling that an arrest won’t stick. However if I’m wrong, I’ll only be too pleased.

    Where are you beautiful Amber? We need to find you.

  154. By rights, Mason could not be charged with those driving infractions unless he was caught behind the wheel on a public highway. It just so happens they have his confession on video so now his car is impounded. I hope they go over it with a fine tooth comb. It is too bad they never seized the vehicle sooner.

  155. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Well, the searches are continuing. The mainstream media is now reporting that one of the searches is near Amber’s home. Here is the quote from beneath the picture in the top left hand corner of the write-up: “Police search the waters and land near a dirt road in Pictou Landing. The road is located near the Big Gut Bridge and a short distance from Kirwan’s home where she lived with her boyfriend, Mason Campbell.

    UPDATE: Four search teams working today in search for missing girl
    Sub-Heading: One area near Kirwan’s home
    Published on October 16, 2011 | UPDATE: 8:51 a.m. Oct. 17
    Quote:
    Four Search and Rescue teams from around Nova Scotia will continue to search for Amber Kirwan today.

    Teams from Pictou County will be joined by their counterparts in Halifax, Springhill and Colchester County. Currently, they are finishing a search near the Big Gut Bridge in Pictou Landing but other wooded and water areas of interest at various locations through the county will be searches.
    End of Quote

  156. Nan11~~well, the location of their searches seems to indicate they suspect you know who…hmmmm

  157. nan11 says:

    Snoops: It’s certainly looking like that. The supporters are somewhat out this morning, iykwim. (At least compared to last night.)

    Here is a link to the candlelight vigile held Saturday night for Amber. Though it was rumoured that Mr. Campbell didn’t stay long–he headed the group. (He rather tries hard to keep his face out of the recorder, imo.)

    Last nights candlelight walk [Oct. 15th & 16th] drew a huge crowd of supporters for Amber Kirwan

  158. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Me again. I finally found an article from ‘The Chronicle Herald’. I think they have a new look–their site was down over the weekend. Anyway, it’s dated yesterday. Like many of the recent articles, it’s very sketchy on the details.

    I’ll also add a link to an write-up from Canada East and a brief one from Metro News. I think it’s what they are not saying that is most significant. We will probably see a media ban on this case as soon as anything significant is discovered. That could be soon.

    If there is a new article from “The Herald’ this morning, I cannot find it. {sigh}
    The Chronicle Herald ~ Search continues for missing Nova Scotia woman
    October 16, 2011 – 8:18pm By AARON BESWICK Truro Bureau
    Quote:
    A week after Amber Kirwan’s disappearance, answers about what happened to the 19-year-old remain painfully elusive.
    End of Quote

    Nothing new here–just a recap of the weekend searches.
    Canada East ~ Family and friends remain hopeful that Amber Kirwan, 19, will be found safe
    by sueann musick ~ AtLANTIC NEWS SERVICE
    Published Monday October 17th, 2011
    Quote:
    Police K-9 services were spotted at Heathbell Road Saturday searching in a wooded area that is known for its ATV trails. Pictou County ground search and rescue volunteers were at Heathbell Road early yesterday conducting an evidentiary search and they remained there throughout the day. An RCMP helicopter flew over both Heathbell and Pictou Landing many throughout the weekend.
    End of Quote

    This is the shortest article; but, imo, the most interesting. I’ve read this before, but I’ve never seen it discussed much–however, it sounds to me if they have found additional ‘items’ at the searches they conducted over the weekend. Also, I think it could be significant that they have requested ‘ground search teams’ to join them.
    Metro News (The Canadian Press) ~ Search teams look for missing N.S. teen
    Published: October 17, 2011 9:05 a.m. ~ Last modified: October 17, 2011 9:22 a.m.
    Quote:
    Police, K-9 units and forensic services have been joined by four different ground search teams.

    Investigators say they are following up on tips and information and some items they’ve picked up are being processed by forensic services to determine if they belong to Kirwan.
    End of Quote

  159. Ana P says:

    Nan11 Thank you for the links! Why do you think there might be a media ban if anything significant is discovered? Do you mean on all stories regarding this case, or just referring to evidence? Is this common practice?

  160. I think a media ban would be a good thing in this case. LE wants to amass enough evidence to make an arrest without any interference from the media cameras and the public. I think they may be afraid some people may take the law into their own hands and vigilante justice may take place. There is a comment upthread that is a good example how some people close to Amber may react.

  161. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is the latest little bit from ‘New Glasgow News’. Const. MacDonald says ‘there is not much he can divulge’ about the Heathbell area searches. He does not say it was all for nothing, though. 😉

    UPDATE: Police focus search near missing teen’s Pictou Landing home
    Quote:
    UPDATE: 12:03 p.m. Oct. 17 – PICTOU LANDING – The main focus of Monday’s search for missing teen Amber Kirwan is the wooded area around her home, says Const. Ken MacDonald with New Glasgow Police Services.

    Search and Rescue teams have completed the search of the Heathbell area and are now focusing their efforts in Pictou Landing.

    MacDonald says there’s “not much I can divulge” about the outcome of the search in Heathbell.

    Search and Rescue teams from Halifax, Colchester and Spring Hill are joining Pictou County Volunteer Ground Search and Rescue to search the area.
    End of Quote

  162. nan11 says:

    Snoops: This picture is kind of interesting, and maybe speaks a thousand words. It is from the balloon release this weekend.

    Front Page of ‘The News’

    Here is the caption beneath it ~ (you can click on the magnifier to view it clearly):
    Quote:
    Amber Kirwan’s family joined more than 100 people in Blue Acres on Saturday afternoon to form a human ribbon and release balloons in her honour. Here, her boyfriend Mason Campbell, centre, and Kirwan’s mother Marj, right, along with other family members watch as helium balloons float through the air toward New Glasgow. (Sueann Musick – The News)

    I’ve been reading ‘rumours’ that she was posting in his support on the Facebook page. I was hoping that maybe it wasn’t really her, but from this picture I would say it probably is.

  163. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I’m surprised that there has been no update in the case since 12:00 noon. Usually we hear something by now.

    I’m thinking they must be still out searching. Still, it’s a little strange.

  164. Nan11~~it may be the ‘calm’ before the ‘storm’. The Scanner only has fire and ambulance so the police are blocking all their calls. They have a notice up saying they closed down because Facebook was repeating things they heard on the scanner.

  165. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Yep, I even tried the scanner. Apparently, I watched the wrong news. The CTV just did a short blurb saying they were still searching. No Dan MacIntosh report or anything. 😐

    I’ve read on the Missing People Canada forum that the CBC did a little better. They reported that they had ‘learned’ that Mason’s car had been seized with a search warrant, and that the police would not confirm this. Apparently, they also showed where they were searching today and stated that it is about 100 years from where Amber and Mason were living.

    Here is a link that may work for you. (It doesn’t for me.) I think it may be for the whole newscast, though.
    http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Local_News/NS/1317909223/ID=1724429984

  166. Nan11~~I was just at Unsolved Murders and read all the latest comments and watched the news broadcast. If Mason was hauled over when his car was seized, how come he was still driving around without insurance and registration? I hope the searhers come across something and the tip wasn’t a hoax. Did anyone mention if Mason has a job and what kind of work he does?

  167. Ana P says:

    Probably just a coincidence but the abandoned Tibbetts paint factory off Glass Street, that was search earlier in the week, is on fire. I think they have it under control.

  168. Ana~~just like 911 receiving a prank call from a young women who seemed to be in distress and then hanging up, there will be other things happen. Until Amber is found, everything will seem suspicious. A vacant house trailor that was not occupied was on fire just outside the New Glasgow area. The first thing I thought, ” my God, someone may be burning a body.” The call came in on the Scanner I was monitoring at the time.

  169. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Well, they finally got around to issuing an update. They might return tomorrow or they might not. 😕
    NG News ~ Ground search and rescue teams comb woods in case of missing teen
    Published on October 17, 2011
    Quote:
    He also added that the search in the Hillside/Pictou Landing area wrapped up around supper time as it grew darker. It’s not yet known if searchers will return to that area again tomorrow.
    End of Quote

    Here is a link about the fire in the old Tibbet’s building on Glass St. They did search this area early in the investigation. Tim Horton’s is right on the corner–just interesting to note. 😉
    NG News ~ Mayor frustrated over fire at boarded-up building
    Published on October 17, 2011
    Snipped and Quoted:
    This is the second time the building has caught fire in recent months.
    The building on Glass Street has been vacant since 2000 when the business filed for bankruptcy.

    End of Quote

    This is the CBC write-up confirming that Mr. Campbell’s car was seized.
    CBC News ~ Police seize car belonging to Kirwan’s boyfriend
    Posted: Oct 17, 2011 7:45 PM AT | Last Updated: Oct 17, 2011 7:40 PM AT
    Quote:
    Mason Campbell was stopped by police who used a warrant to seize his vehicle.
    End of Quote

  170. eastcoastdeb says:

    [editted as content was off topic]

    I believe there is no confirmation of the shoe, but it’s been thrown around a lot and could very well be possible. The map I’m referring to is by Nan11, Oct. 15, at 5:15. It shows a good view of the immediate area and close proximatey where Amber was last seen.
    I don’t trust all the rumours going around, but my youngest son when to school with Amber and two of my other sons knew her as well. A lot of info is being thrown out. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.
    On the map, “B” is where the shoe is rumoured to be found. This is directly where I worked a few years ago. With the confusing one way streets in this area, she could have been pushed (and I’m very sorry for saying let alone thinking this)over this fence and picked up in the parking lot of the Dock (a restaurant and pub). They could then head over the George Street Bridge and turn toward Abercrombie where the Trenton Connector was searched.

  171. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Those top two links in my comment of 12:14 am do not appear to be working. However, I think they will in a few minutes. The website appears to be down.

    I’ll check them again a little later. If they still won’t work, I’ll try reposting them. Sorry, for this inconvenience.

  172. katelin1 says:

    I’ve been fallowing this case from day one, I check this site every hour on the hour. First thing I think about when I wake up and it’s the last thing on my mind before bed. Great site to keep one updated. I’m hoping and praying for this woman’s safe return. Now I would hate to point fingers, but why does Mason always talk about Amber in past tense ? .. ” i LOVED her” . And early on in one interview a reporter asked him, Do you think she just left ? , even if it is slightly out of character? , he responds with umm , to get away from me ? ….. no ! (not exactly what she asked)
    I hope I am wrong, but I’ve had this gut feelings since day one.

    I’m 21 from a small town as well and this case has touched my heart so much, my thoughts are consumed with every aspect of this case all day long ! I’m so tired of guessing the where about of this beautiful girl and just wish she was home safe. I really can’t wait for her to come home , sit down in front of a computer and realize the outstanding amount of people praying for her.
    praying for you Amber ❤

  173. nan11 says:

    Snoops: This is the same map, only I zoomed in on “A”, “B”, “C”, & “D” areas.

    http://g.co/maps/a23hm

    Your right that it was only ‘rumoured’ that location “B” is where one shoe was said to be found. There was a picture, though, that showed something that looked a lot like a shoe being found; although it was hard to tell the location from the picture. (So, it is a stretch.)

    And since I seem to be in the mood for rumours, Ping “D” (look right straight up from “C”) is on the corner of Trenton Road and Glass St. The closed up paint factory is right down there and Tim Horton’s is on the corner. Now, that part is not rumour–but it was rumoured that Mr. Campbell was seen at Tim Horton’s in the wee morning hours of that Sunday.

    Forgive me for repeating rumours, but some of them make for interesting contemplation. And I do realize that they are just rumours and could contain no truth at all.

    (If that website ever comes up, I’ll see if I can find that picture.)

  174. katelin1~~welcome to my blog. I think a lot of people feel exactly the way you do. I hope and pray that law enforcement are gathering enough evidence and soon an arrest will be made. Amber’s family needs closure as well as the residents in Pictou County. Until Amber’s remains are found, we must hold on to a glimmer of hope that she may return safely.

  175. nan11 says:

    katelin1: I wish I was 21 again. I am certainly one of the people praying hard for Amber, though.

    Our prayers might not be answered exactly the way we want them too; however, some resolution will be better than not knowing.

    I hope you take care, and that you won’t walk alone at night. Here is an old rule that always holds true–‘there is safety in numbers.’

    Prayers for Amber–tonight and always.

  176. Nan11~~ I just get Web Page not found at those links. We will just leave them for now. Yes, prayers are certainly needed for Amber. The ‘not knowing’ and who may be running around on the loose waiting to attack another girl or draw one in to his spiders web. Let’s hope the RCMP will stand by their motto and get their man.

  177. nan11 says:

    Snoops: This is a link for a short YouTube video that’s making its way around. I forgot to tell you that Ping “B” on the map is the location of this wall. When you use street view, you can see the construction–the ‘wall’ wasn’t there yet–but that is where they set the candles up for Amber at all the vigils.

    Please come home AMBER

    FYI: I’m sorry about the website. What makes me think it’s down is because I have the main page bookmarked and right now when I click on it I get the ‘404’ error. Usually, I get a main page where I can click on any new write-ups.

  178. Nan11~~it is wonderful to light the candles. I am not in favor of balloons being released as I think of the wildlife. A ‘404’ error means the site is just down. We will see if it shows tomorrow. I took a stroll on your map tonight from Dooly’s to Big Al’s. It is a fair piece to be walking alone at 1:30am. It looked more than a 2 minute walk to me.

  179. Nan11~~here is another one. It shows Amber and Mason together…

    Come Home Amber

  180. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Thanks for that video. So sad–it’s going to be another hard night to sleep.

    I agree with you about the length of that walk. I would say at least 5 minutes–take in the time she waited on the corner for the light to change and everything.

  181. nan11n says:

    Snoops: It seems that the New Glasgow News website, the Truro newspaper website, and even the Chronicle Herald wesite are having problems. (I have tried them in Firefox.) I am frustrated to no end over this, believe me.

    I can’t believe the timing of this. I just can’t. 😕

    Anyway, here is a little blurb Metro News:

    Search still in full force: Police
    Sub-Headings: A $5,000 reward for information was raised by family, friends | Police want people with info to contact them
    [By] JENNIFER TAPLIN, METRO | Published: October 18, 2011 1:34 a.m. | Last modified: October 18, 2011 1:37 a.m.
    Quote:
    “Police have not scaled down any search,” said Const. Ken MacDonald with the New Glasgow police.

    Ground crews are scouring the woods and waterways in several areas of Pictou County this week. Meanwhile tips are pouring in, MacDonald said.
    End of Quote

    Well, isn’t that informative? 😐

  182. nan11n says:

    Snoops: I don’t know how I missed this write-up, but I just came across it at the “Unsolved Murders – Missing People Canada” forum. Kudos to the poster there who noticed it!

    The News 95.7 website has done a couple of other good articles on this case, moo. They are now saying law enforcement took Mr. Campbell’s cellphone as well as his car on Sunday night. (Just before they shut down the scanner, of course.)

    News 95.7 ~ Police seize boyfriend’s car in missing woman case
    [By] Desiree Finhert | Oct 16, 2011 12:06:14 PM
    Quote:
    Sources tell News 95.7 officers seized Mason Campbell’s car and cellphone Sunday as the search for Amber Kirwan, 19, entered its second week.
    End of Quote

    Prayers for Amber as we await any tidbit of news the powers that be care to throw our way.

  183. nan11 says:

    Snoops: The websites seems to be working now. The links in my comment at 12:14 am/Oct. 18/11 will open.

    There seems to be nothing new from the ‘New Glasgow News’ to add to the search for Amber.

    Here are a few lesser important links–but really nothing new. No confirmation what-so-ever if searches are going on currently.

    This link is from the Truro Daily News. It appears to be the identical article that in the New Glasgow News, but I link it down here as it is the most recent:
    Truro Daily News ~ Search focuses near Kirwan’s home
    Published on October 17, 2011
    Quote:
    On Monday, search teams from outside the region – Halifax, Colchester and Springhill – joined Pictou County Ground Search and Rescue to comb through the wooded areas near the Big Gut bridge. A total of 65 searchers, including the RCMP and New Glasgow Police, participated in the effort.
    End of Quote

    This link may be a duplicate and I apologize if it is–I did scroll up and didn’t see, though I do remember reading it before. It came out after they closed down the scanner.
    New Glasgow News ~ Police caution people to beware of rumours in case of missing teen
    Published on October 17, 2011
    Quote:
    “One of the biggest reasons why we’re releasing press releases is because it’s the best way to make sure the most correct and accurate information is getting out to the public, and we do that via the media,” he said. “Our biggest concern is the wrong information getting out there.”

    Wild rumours began circulating over the weekend as county residents began noticing increased police activity in areas being searched. There have also been rumours about what may or may not have happened the night Kirwan disappeared.

    “If the wrong information does get out there, folks might begin to feel their neighbourhoods might be unsafe, and that’s not the case,” MacDonald said.
    End of Quote
    Heaven forbid! moo, of course.

    And I’ll just add this:
    Vehicle Belonging To Amber Kirwan’s Boyfriend Believed To Have Been Seized By Police
    Sub-Heading: Police will neither confirm, nor deny, report
    10/18/2011
    Quote:
    At least two separate media outlets are reporting police used a warrant to seize the vehicle, but police will not confirm, nor deny, the report.
    End of Quote

  184. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is a write-up and video from CTV Atlantic.
    CTV Atlantic (Video with Dan MacIntosh reporting) ~ Boyfriend’s car reportedly seized by police
    Date: Tuesday Oct. 18, 2011 10:10 AM ET
    Quote:
    There are strong indications investigators have now seized a car belonging to the boyfriend of a missing Nova Scotia woman.
    End of Quote

  185. nan11 says:

    Sorry, Snoops. That’s an older video, but the write-up is new. 😳

  186. Nan11~ ~by the way you can search things out in here, Search and Rescue in Pictou County could use your help. All the links, even from yesterday are working now. Don’t worry about posting duplicates, we will read them twice. I hope Mason’s car and especially the cell phone will give LE some answers. I have a feeling that someone will squeal so to speak. That reward money may look good to the person who may know something and may talk if they are assured they can do it anonymously. Right now they may be too scared to talk due to retaliation. Sometimes a few beers loosens the lips. I have every faith in LE and the RCMP. I remember when Melissa Boudreau was murdered by her mother and thrown out of the car in a snowbank down near Bridgewater. It took a bit of time but ‘due to a sting operation’, they got the mother to spill her guts. Mason does appear to be a person of interest but he is innocent until it is proven otherwise.

    I wish Mason would take a polygraph, if he hasn’t already. Polys cannot be used as evidence in a trial but they sure as heck make LE’s job much easier. People who brag that they can cheat on a polygraph are full of chit. Look at our other case of Lisa’s mother.

  187. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is a very brief update from today.
    Ground search and rescue teams comb woods in case of missing teen
    Published on October 18, 2011
    Quote:
    12:41 p.m: RCMP divers will resume their search of the water near the Big Gut Bridge today in relation to Amber Kirwan’s disappearance.

    New Glasgow Police Const. Ken MacDonald says the police will continue following up on other evidence and tips today, but there will be no further ground search teams out on Tuesday.
    End of Quote

    I remember that case you mentioned; and, yes, I think they did a good job there. (I would have liked to have seen a few more years added to that sentence, though.)

    There was one in my area a few years later where they did not do such a good job. A really decent lady seemingly disappeared on her way home from work around 8:00 pm one evening. They did do a decent job with the ground searches. However, when that turned up nothing they decided that the woman must have run away. They said people do that sometimes.

    Now, keep in mind this was a lady whose husband had just retired from his job as an air traffic controller, whose children were grown and having their own family, and the couple had recently purchased tickets for there first ever vacation in Florida.

    None-the-less, law enforcement said you can never tell what’s on a person’s mind and they thought that someday she might contact her daughters.

    A few weeks later, that lady climbed out a basement window with only a t-shirt and a pair of ladies underwear on and ran for her life. This was in the month of March.

    It turned out that she had been kidnapped at knifepoint and raped repeatedly for almost a month; while our law enforcement was saying she had willingly deserted her husband, and run off with another man.

    There was nothing, absolutely nothing, in her past that would indicate this behaviour. Law enforcement just could find no trace of her; so they assumed she had run off; and issued a statement to this effect. 😐

  188. Nan11~~ in the case of Melissa Boudreau of Bridgewater. She had been living with her father and was only back with her mother for two weeks. Her mother and boyfriend- hardcore drunks. The mother said that Melissa and her had an argument and Melissa got out of the car at a shopping mall parking lot and then disappeared. I am not sure how the mother murdered her but she just parked the car along the side of the road and pushed Melissa’s body out in a snowbank. Someone from Law Enforcement posed as a person wanting to help the mother and get her off of a murder rap. This is how they got the confession out of her. Melissa was such a beautiful young girl, just 12 yrs old. Apparently she was cramping her mother’s lifestyle with the boyfriend. Yes, she deserved a longer sentence than what she got.

  189. nan11 says:

    Snoops: The write-up for this video is not available yet; so I am thanking WebSleuth’s for the link and the info. Apparently, coverage on Amber’s case starts at about the 8:28 minute mark.

    Mason’s mother is now saying publicly that he wasn’t alone that night in the car. I had heard this rumored, but this is the first confirmation of it.

    This is a very interesting development, imo.

    CBC Nova Scotia News Video: October 18, 2011
    October 18, 2011 News > Local News > NS

    The article stating this should be out soon. I hope so because I can’t watch the dang video.

  190. nan11 says:

    Snoops: This link is from the New Glasgow News and it discusses the problems they are having with a certain group going door-to-door collecting donations for Amber. Guess what? They are working a scam.

    I hope they are being very careful with this money–the good hearted people of New Glasgow could end up paying for a criminal lawyer for someone. Just saying’. My Opinion Only, of course.

    The New Glasgow News ~ Volunteers caution about bogus donation collectors

    Quote:
    Mariea Leil Bowser, who has been heading the volunteer effort out of the West Side Recreation Centre, said four people have been spotted in Pictou County asking for donations for Kirwan’s family that are not related to their group.
    End of Quote

    Mariea Leil Bowser is a very close friend of Mr. Campbell’s mother. In fact, she has stated that she was there the night Mason was born.

  191. Nan11~~you didn’t miss much on the CBC news. It was barely two minutes long, if that. How does Mason’s mother know someone was in the car with Mason when he went to pick Amber up?
    Was she right there when he left? Did he tell her that he was with someone else? Who is this someone else? Did Mason leave from his apartment to go and pick Amber up or was it some other place where he was having few drinks with his buddies? Maybe his mother was there with them all? Because a son tells his mother something, it does not make it a fact. Nuff said.

  192. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Very interesting, though, isn’t it? She has tried hard to get this information out there. She has now given it to the media, but she at least hinted at it before under her own name (as she used to like to say), on the ‘Unsolved/Missing Canada’ forum.

    I read a rumor that law enforcement actually let her and Mason watch the video of Amber leaving Dooly’s as many times as they wanted–and supposedly they spent quite a bit of time watching it again and again.

    I think you hit the nail on the head, though, when you questioned how does she know. That’s it in a nut shell really–her info is all second hand just like ours, and we must consider her source.

    My Opinion Only, of course.

  193. Sara~~a time difference would not cause you to not get the link to work. I am probably on the same time as you here in N.S. Have you tried using another browser such as internet explorer or Mozilla Firefox. I notice you are using Chrome. Sometimes another browser works for me or it could be that the linked site may be having heavy traffic. That is what happened to two links that Nan11 posted last night and wouldn’t work, today they are fine. Hope this helps.

  194. ok thanks ill try that there now…

  195. nan11 says:

    Sara: I hope you got the links to work! 🙂

    Snoops: Well, here are few updates with scant information, of course.

    I find the first write-up so strange. The title and sub-heading would suggest that information contained there-in would be all about those who are ‘falsely’ collecting for Amber, and all those who are ‘legitimately’ collecting for Amber’s family and Mason.
    Quote (from 1st link below):
    She said donation boxes with green ribbons have been placed in at least 23 stores and that money will be placed in a bank account for the Kirwan family as well as Amber’s boyfriend.
    End of Quote
    ‘Nough said regarding the usage of the money collected. {sigh}

    Now see the quote below the 1st link to notice that in the midst of it they stick in the ‘new’ info–first reported by the CBC as a scolding given to the media by [mother] Mrs. Campbell–that [son] Mr. Mason Campbell evidently had a friend with him the fateful evening when they arrived to pick-up Amber.

    I hope we all keep in mind that what we do not have here is confirmation or denial by law enforcement, nor any mention that law enforcement was even asked to confirm or deny.
    New Glasgow News ~ Volunteers caution about bogus donation collectors
    Published on October 18, 2011
    Sub-Heading: Group continues effort to help family in missing woman case
    Quote:
    Kirwan disappeared from downtown New Glasgow Oct. 9. She was last seen walking from Doolys to Big Al’s convenience store to meet her boyfriend Mason Campbell, who said he and a friend with him were unable to find her when they arrived. Hundreds of volunteers have been holding searches, distributing posters and holding public events to bring awareness to her disappearance.
    End of Quote

    In the write-up contained in the following link–which is written by the first and only news outlet to report that Amber’s cell phone had been seized along with Mason’s vehicle–no mention is made of the sudden revelation of the friend accompanying Mason during the early morning hours of October 9, 2011.
    News 95.7 ~ Amber Kirwan case attracting scammers
    News 95.7 Staff ~ Oct 19, 2011 05:31:21 AM
    Quote:
    Cst. Ken MacDonald says police have received complaints about phoney fundraisers going door to door asking people for money to help with the search.

    They’ve also been reported canvassing at some grocery stores.

    MacDonald tells the Herald officers haven’t been able to confirm the reports yet.
    End of Quote

    All in My Humble Opinion Only, of course.

  196. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is the link for the article that contained the picture of Amber’s shoe possibly being found.

    If you click on the picture, itself, it will open in a seperate window. You can then enlarge it even more with the ‘zoom’ feature in your browser window. (150% works well.)
    New Glasgow News ~ Boyfriend questioned in Kirwan’s disappearance
    Published on October 11, 2011
    Quote:
    UPDATE – Wednesday, Oct. 12, 1:52 p.m. – New Glasgow Police officers remove a black object from a grassy area in New Glasgow. Police are continuing their investigation into the disappearance of Amber Kirwan who was last seen outside of Doolys at 1:30 a.m. Sunday.
    End of Quote

    I note that it doesn’t specifically state where the ‘black object’ was found, nor that it was a shoe. The rest is rumor, but the picture is rather clear, imo.

    Now, the link that follows is just an update on the fire at the former Tibbetts Paints. It was determined to have been arson.
    Police determine fire at former Tibbetts Paints was arson
    Published on October 18, 2011
    Quote:
    Police have determined that the fire at the former Tibbetts Paints building Monday night was a case of arson.
    End of Quote
    Before anyone jumps, I am not trying to connect this to Amber’s disappearance. I am only noting it.

    Picture number 3 in my first link shows law enforcement completing their search of the building, prior to the fire, That search was conducted in connection within Amber’s disappearance.

    An interesting rumor to note ~~ again this part is rumor only ~~ is that Mason was seen at Tim Hortons on the corner of Glass St. & Trenton Rd. in the early morning hours of October 9, 2011–prior to Amber having been reported missing.

    Quote from picture #3 caption.
    Duane Rutledge and Ekko of the New Glasgow Police Services K-9 unit search the former Tibbets Paints building on Glass Street. The unit is one of the many teams used in the search for 19-year-old Amber Kirwan who went missing Sunday morning from downtown New Glasgow.
    End of Quote

  197. nan11 says:

    Snoops: This is latest blurb.
    RCMP continue search for Amber Kirwan in Pictou Landing area
    Published on October 19, 2011
    Quote:
    PICTOU LANDING – The RCMP Underwater Recovery Team will be back in the Pictou Landing area today, says New Glasgow Police Const. Ken MacDonald.

    Police have been searching for missing 19-year-old, Amber Kirwan, who disappeared on Oct. 9th.

    No ground search and rescue is anticipated today, he added.

    The divers have been on the scene for most of the week.

    “The reason for it is that this is one of the areas we’re searching as part of the investigation,” MacDonald said. “This area involves water and, because ground search doesn’t go into waterways and there are waterways, tributaries and streams in the area, we have to get the RCMP dive team in.”
    End of Quote

    My prayer: Please let this be the day they bring Amber home, and end this lunacy of parades, horn honking, and ‘fund’ raising. IMHOO

  198. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Mrs. Campbell is commenting today at Unsolved Murders | Missing People Canada.
    Quote by Eva Campbell–mother of Mason of Campbell, Amber’s boyfriend:
    I did not want to give any information that was not released by the police. But I lost my temper with the media at that moment. You will note that I did tell you that the public has less than 1 percent of the info, and that the people that NEED that info…have it.

    I stopped commenting on this forum because those of you who have made up your mind, don’t want to be persuaded otherwise.
    End of Quote
    Very cute. She didn’t want to give information that was not released by police. However, she lost her temper (with the media at that moment)? Like mother, like son–maybe. MOO

  199. nan11 says:

    Snoops: That link takes you to the very first page of the forum. See page 53, post #792. (Two up from the bottom of page.)

    « Reply #792 on: Today at 08:37:14 AM » if it stays there.

  200. My My we have some “pro’s” on her do we? well instead of spouting off WHY NOT have you arse out there helping the rescue crews instead of sitting at the computer HMMMM??? just MHO of course…

    I prefer not to edit comments. Anymore comments like this will be deleted. This blog will not become a battle field to malign other people who voice their opinions. ~~Mainstreamfair

  201. nan11 says:

    Sara: Whether you people like it or not, this case is in the public eye and we are allowed to voice our opinions.

    Do you think honking horns and having parades and collecting money for Mason is helping to find Amber?

    The last time I checked we had freedom of speech in this country.

  202. Sherry says:

    Thanks for helping those rescue crews! I’m sure they just love all of your support! Stay as much outta the way as possible, deary~ :mrgreen:

    I thank you, nan11 and Snoopy, for being on your arses at your computers bringing us from distant lands the updates as to what is going on. 😉

  203. Sherry~ ~ I doubt if Sara travelled to Pictou County from Northern N.B. to help in any search party in Pictou County and that is why her comments were not called for.

  204. Sherry says:

    Oh. I thought she was right there. It wasn’t a fair thing to say for considering that we cannot see or know what people do or do not do who comment or run blogs. It may be a five minute break that one pops in to say their piece then off to help the homeless they go! KWIM?

  205. Nan11~~here is a pic of them finding what looks like a shoe…I enlarged it and it does appear to be a shoe.

  206. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I think it does, too. And it appears to fit the description of the shoes Amber was wearing that night.

    Hee is a quote from the same article, giving a description of what she was wearing:
    Quote:
    Kirwan is 5’1” and weighs about 130 pounds. She was last seen wearing a black leggings with a black and blue shirt, dark sweater and black flats for shoes.
    End of Quote

    Also, according to the article, that shoe (if) it is a shoe, was found early Wednesday afternoon (Oct. 12th, according to the article.)

    People are saying it’s bogus because that area was searched previously, but searched previously by whom? That is why they want only professional searchers–because they do find things that untrained people miss. They just do.

    The other senario, of course, is that someone was running around throwing her things out of a car window–after she was reported missing. That theory, however, sounds a little far-fetched to me. Surely, with the area on high-alert, someone would have noticed that.

    MOO

    Sherry and Snoops: Thank you. Sheese! I would have thought that commenter lived next door to the Campbell’s all her life. It’s kind of a small world around here though–maybe she is a displaced relative.

    Honestly, I’m sorry if I offended her–but Mason’s supporters have no business thinking they can control the whole dang internet.

    Let’s all just pray together that they find beautiful, 19 year old, Amber Kirwan.

    IMHO.

  207. that comment was meant for cat whatever her name is and no the balloons and parades are more of a fundraising effrt or as some call it a circus for the youngsters running around trying to get attention on behalf of amber and it seems to be quite effective so it seems…

    I have no ‘cats’ who comment in here. All your future comments will be held in moderation for approval, HUNNI. I am running this blog, not you, so you may be more comfortable commenting elsewhere where the cats hang out~Mainstreamfair

  208. nan11 says:

    Snoops: A little bit of new info seeping out here. However, the source is Mrs. Campbell. Now she is confirming another rumor: that there were still people at the apartment he shared with Amber when he left to pick her up at Big Al’s.

    The Pictou Advocate ~ Search for Kirwan intensifies
    Posted on October 19, 2011 Debbi Harvie and Jackie Jardine
    Quote:
    The mother of Amber Kirwan’s boyfriend has confirmed that police have seized her son’s car, which had his keys and cellphone. …snipped… on Sunday night through a warrant. Police, however, remain mum on the topic.

    Eva Campbell, who also lives in Pictou Landing, told media on Tuesday that her son was not alone in the car on the night he was to pick Kirwan up from Dooly’s, and that people were still at the apartment he shared with Kirwan.
    End of Quote

  209. [following are comments transferred from Jonathon’s Coffee Café]

    Snoops: The following is an interesting an informative read. (The second link is the actual ruling by the Supreme Court of Canada.

    The Globe and Mail ~ Hyperlinking doesn’t constitute defamation, Supreme Court rules
    By Kirk Makin | Last updated Wednesday, Oct. 19, 2011 1:45PM EDT
    Quote:
    The Supreme Court of Canada has erected a shield to protect those who post internet links to defamatory sites.
    End of Quote

    SUPREME COURT OF CANADA–Citation: Crookes v. Newton, 2011 SCC 47
    Date: 20111019

  210. Nan11 ~~ that was a well written article by the Advocate. I heard that the waters under Gut Bridge have a strong under current. I am guessing that the East River flows under that bridge. I wonder where it empties. Thank God we don’t have alligators in our rivers around here.

  211. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Ah, an excuse to add my map link again. 😆

    Ping “G” is the area that “Gut Bridge” is in.
    http://g.co/maps/c9mvh

    This is the map really zoomed out.
    http://g.co/maps/sw6tp

    There is some big old cold bodies of water out there.

  212. Sara ………. My My we have some “pro’s” on her do we? well instead of spouting off WHY NOT have you arse out there helping the rescue crews instead of sitting at the computer HMMMM??? just MHO of course…….There was another charming polite erudite lady whom urged people to get of the butts an search for her grand daughter….I would find this difficult though as I live in UK….Snoops an others can advocate for missing people with a keyboard surely all help is to be welcomed rather than scorned….

  213. Ecossie~~sorry you went into moderation. I am going to take a certain name out of filter and try something else. I don’t think Sara knows who exactly she is talking to. It may surprise her if she knew our true identity. Right Matey?

  214. Nan11~ ~ earlier I clicked on your map and drove along the highway for miles and miles and still never came to a town. The houses are few and far between along the highway. I decided that I was lost and quit. It said I was on East River Road but I didn’t look to see what direction I was going in.

  215. Dont sweat it Snoops I understand I beleive most things in moderation are fine….

    I agree, thanks, Matey~SS

  216. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I know what you mean about those maps–I get lost, too. It’s a blessing that we can just click a button and be home again. 😉

    I see they are still searching aroung the Big Gut Bridge. It is a fairly big body of water, though.
    Divers continue search for evidence in case of missing Pictou County teen
    Published on October 20, 2011
    Quote:
    Const. Ken MacDonald says that the RCMP Underwater Search and Recovery Team will continue to work at the bridge today.

    It’s not known how long the divers will take to complete the search of the area.
    End of Quote

    This will be very hard to read because it’s actually a link to the morning paper in New Glasgow. However, they mean for you to only read the first page for free. I just wanted to point out that Amber is already relegated to Page 3 of the local newspaper after only being missing for 11 days. 😦
    The News, New Glasgow ~ Page 3: Search for Missing Woman Continues With Divers Near Bridge
    Thursday, October 20, 2011
    Quote:
    Campbell said when he and a friend arrived a short time later, she was nowhere to be found.
    End of Quote

  217. Nan11~~LE must have strong suspicions that Amber’s body was thrown off that bridge. I haven’t been reading much at Unsolved Murders as it is just getting to be the same things over and over. I believe in dealing with reality and not trying to sugar coat everything. There are a lot of loop holes in some of the stories circulating. I am in hopes that LE can fill in all the blanks and finally make an arrest soon. I think they are desperately trying to find Amber’s remains before they haul someone in and charge them with homicide.

  218. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I have a strong tendency to agree with your comment of 1:30 pm. LE, of course, cautions against the public drawing those conclusions, iykwim. {sigh}

    I guess we can ‘honk our horns’ and ‘curse at people’ rallies; but, heaven forbid, we should be able to apply our minds to a reasonable conclusion.

    Regarding that forum, besides being not worth the eye strain, it has become a forum for the shining image of Mason Campbell, imho. Mason’s mother and her good friend who runs the charity for Amber, keep all the commenters there corrected, (with help from the mods.) moo.

    Following, I’ll post a few news articles that I don’t think have been linked before. They are getting few and far between anyway. Kudos to the ‘Pictou Advocate’ for trying to keep Amber’s story out there.

    The Pictou Advocate ~ Search for Kirwan intensifies
    Thursday, October 20th, 2011
    Quote:
    Eva Campbell, who also lives in Pictou Landing, told media on Tuesday that her son was not alone in the car on the night he was to pick Kirwan up from Dooly’s, and that people were still at the apartment he shared with Kirwan. She says her son is distraught. Police continue to say the case is being treated as a missing persons case and will continue to be so unless evidence to the contrary is found.

    I thank WebSleuths forum for this link to the CBC news. Please note that it is not that other forum. The CBC videos will not play on my computer; thus, it is very difficult for me to search them out–I cannot tell for certain that I have the right link. Again, thank you WebSleuths.
    CBC News Video: Update on Amber Kirwan, At about the 14:30 minute mark

  219. Nan11~~barely anything on the CBC News about Amber. The divers were still in the water and the cadaver dogs were being utilized. It did show all the flooding around here. Hfx airport got 90mm’s at news time and it is still pouring. If you find this page slowing down, let me know okay? I have over 200 comments and will start another post if need be.

  220. nan11 says:

    Snoops: No problems with the page so far. 🙂

    Thanks for letting me know about the CBC video. It’s interesting to note about the dogs.

    Prayers for beautiful Amber, just barely 19 years old.

    FYI: Thanks for fixing my bloopers, too. ✿ܓ

  221. nan11 says:

    Snoops: If I didn’t know better, I would say that things are tapering off. This write-up is dated today but is a reprint of one appearing a few days ago. The local New Glasgow News has no update yet today. This could be a sign that they are too busy to bother, or it could be a sign that there is nothing new. 😐

    The Pictou Advocate ~ Search for Kirwan intensifies
    Friday, October 21st, 2011
    Quote:
    On the weekend, the search was concentrated around the area of the Big Gut Bridge in Pictou Landing as well as Heathbell Road. Ground search and rescue teams were brought in from across the province, along with RCMP divers, to search.
    End of Quote

    Prayers for Amber.

  222. Nan11~~things seem to be slowing down but I still have hopes that something will turn up. Fingers crossed this case will not go cold. There is more than one person out there who knows something and hopefully their conscience will bother them enough that they will come forward.

  223. nan11 says:

    Snoops: They have released the video of Amber leaving Dooly’s and walking towards Big Al’s. Let me know what you think, because ‘puter is not allowing me to view it.

    The News New Glasgow Police release video from the surveillance camera at Dooly’s at the time Amber Kirwan went missing
    Published on October 21, 2011 at 14:03:25

  224. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is a write-up by the CBC. It contains a small picture.
    CBC News ~ Police release security tape of Kirwan
    Posted: Oct 21, 2011 3:15 PM AT ~ Last Updated: Oct 21, 2011 3:01 PM AT
    Quote:
    The New Glasgow Police Service has released video and a photo from a security tape of Amber Kirwan leaving Doolys pool hall on Oct. 9.
    End of Quote.

  225. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is the article in the New Glasgow News. The CBC picture is clearer. Some intelligent comments at the link.
    New Glasgow News: Police release surveillance video of Kirwan
    Published on October 21, 2011
    Quote:
    George Street
    New Glasgow Police release video from the surveillance camera at Dooly’s at the time Amber Kirwan went missing. The video shows Kirwan leaving the night club, then speaking with a group of friends before turning and heading along Archimedes towards Big Al’s. In the video, Kirwan can be seen crossing George Street and then fading from the view of the camera.
    End of Quote

  226. nan11 says:

    Snoops: “A police car drives by”–interesting, I would say.

    Metro News ~ Police release video of missing N.S. teen
    Last modified: October 21, 2011 1:43 p.m.
    Quote:
    The grainy video was taken from a surveillance camera outside Dooly’s bar in New Glasgow on Oct. 9.

    It shows Amber Kirwan walking away from the bar alone sometime between 1:30 a.m. and 1:45 a.m. as a crowd gathers outside and a police car drives by.
    End of Quote

  227. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Okay, I finally found a link that I could watch. Thank the powers that be for YouTube!

    Amber Kirwan Video

  228. Nan11 ~~thanks for posting the videos. My gosh, seeing Amber walking along, at a pretty good clip too, makes this all so very realistic and sad. IMO, she made it to Big Al’s. Need I say more?

  229. nan11 says:

    Snoop: I just caught a short interview with Const. Ken MacDonald on the News 95.7 all news radio. Gosh, I wish I could link it so I could play it again, but I think they will do an article about it a little later–I will watch for it.

    Const. MacDonald confirms that the NG Police want anyone there that night to contact them–no matter if they were inside or outside. (I wish they would have done this before.)

    He said that they have spoken with the officer driving the patrol vehicle, and drivers of other vehicles appearing in the video. Everything seems to have been routine at that point.

    One interesting thing that stood out for me was that when asked if Amber was seen on any video from Big Al’s–he does not directly answer. He chooses his words carefully and says that they are continuing to look at all video from the area that night.

  230. nan11 says:

    Snoop: Thanks for letting me know about Dave’s new post.

    I just want to add that I telephoned Big Al’s. They close on Saturday night at 11:00 pm.

    So, Amber was walking alone to a store that had been closed at least two and a half hours.

  231. Nan11~~did someone at Dooly’s actually hear Amber tell Mason on the friend’s cell phone, ” I will meet you at Big Al’s?” Or maybe she told a friend that she was walking to Big Al’s to meet Mason?

    This is off topic…. A cadaver dog positively hit on a deceased body on the floor of Baby Lisa’s Mom’s bedroom floor!!! More to come….

  232. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Thanks for the info on Baby Lisa. Sad, sad that.

    Regarding Amber: Since this morning, I have been looking for a link to that very question you asked in your comment of 5:02 pm. I have not found it. Maggie Chickness says she told her she was going to walk to Big Al’s to meet Mason once they were outside, but earlier I thought it was reported that she had used a friends phone to call him. That’s the part that I can’t find a link for. (Some of the links aren’t working anymore–at least on for the Chronicle Hearld, for example.)

    Anyway, here is what I can find:
    [Maggie Chickness] said she was going to meet her boyfriend at Big Al’s,”
    Quote:
    “We were standing outside Doolys in a group and we were getting ready to leave and she said she was going to meet her boyfriend at Big Al’s,” Chickness said. “We told her we would walk up with her and get our cab from there but she said not to worry. She would be fine.”
    End of Quote

  233. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I just watched the CTV news. At least they are talking about Amber again. Besides the video, they mentioned the picture of Amber seen talking on a cellphone outside of Dooly’s. This link has a copy of that picture. You are suppose to be able to enlarge it, but that feature doesn’t work for me. See what you think. (The CBC link also has the same picture–it doesn’t enlarge for me either.)

    News 95.7 ~ Police release picture and video of missing teen Amber Kirwan
    News Staff with files from the Canadian Press ~ Oct 21, 2011 13:49:12 PM

    A link shoud be available for the CTV newscast soon. (And maybe a write-up.)

  234. This one should be better… I didn’t make it so large…

  235. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Do you think she has one of her shoes in her hand? In the video when she walks away, it look likes maybe her left foot is bare. I not sure about this, though.

    What do you think?

  236. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is a link saying she had no purse or cellphone with her that night.

    Search for New Glasgow teen expands
    Desiree Finhert ~ Oct 12, 2011 04:52:37 AM
    Quote:
    She was not carrying a purse or cell phone at the time, only a few pieces of identification in her pocket.
    End of Quote

  237. Nan11~~ I looked at the video of her walking and it does look like there is no shoe on her left foot. I wonder if any of her friends noticed her carrying her shoe or complaining about a blister on her ankle or whatever.

  238. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is an update from the New Glasgow news. The police believe the time stamp is incorrect. They believe the footage was shot between 1:30 am and 1:45 am on October. 9.
    New Glasgow News ~ Police release video; seek reports of suspicious activity night woman disappeared
    Published on October 21, 2011
    Quote:
    She is spotted walking near Spears Boarding House before she walks out of the camera’s range. Police say the time stamp on the video, which reads 12:50 a.m., is incorrect and believe the footage was shot between 1:30 and 1:45 a.m. on Oct. 9.
    End of Quote

  239. nan11 says:

    Snoops: This is another link for CBC, but this one contains the video footage at the top. I’m reading that it is clearer than the one released by NG News.

    The only one I can watch is the one on YouTube. If you get a minute, let me know if you think it is clearer.

    CBC News ~ Police release security tape of Kirwan
    Posted: Oct 21, 2011 3:15 PM AT ~ Last Updated: Oct 21, 2011 3:32 PM AT

  240. Nan11~~the CBC video is about the same quality as your youtube. I notice that Amber is really moving along and almost running. Someone would have to be fast to stop a vehicle and snatch her up. The way she was moving, it wouldn’t have taken her long to make it to Big Al’s.

  241. nan11n says:

    Snoops: Me again. I’m adding a link to the CTV News video. (I can wathc this one. lol)

    If you, freeze the video at the 1:19 minute mark. Amber is talking on the telephone and it looks to me as if you can see both her shoes on her feet.

    CTV News Video: New Glasgow Police Release News Video

  242. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I forgot to say that you might have to wait a couple of seconds for the ‘bar’ to go away from the bottom of the video so you can see her feet. Also, you can blow it up to full screen.

  243. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Sorry to be making all these comments, but I want to add this link for CTV News. It has the video on the top and the write-up underneath. (I wish I would have posted this one before.)

    CTV Atlantic ~ Police release surveillance video of missing teen
    Date: Friday Oct. 21, 2011 1:45 PM ET
    Quote:
    “As police continue to ask for the public’s assistance to talk to anyone who may be in the surrounding area of Doolys New Glasgow on Saturday evening or Sunday morning is asked to contact New Glasgow Police Service,” says Const. Ken MacDonald, a spokesman for New Glasgow Police. ”

    “New Glasgow Police Service is also asking the general public if they have seen any suspicious activity in and around the surrounding area of Doolys before and after the missing report of 19- year-old Amber Kirwan.”
    End of Quote

  244. Nan11 ~ ~yup, she has both shoes on in the video. They sure look like one that was found in the bushes.

  245. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I’m hoping you have not closed this thread and that you won’t mind if I continue to keep Amber’s story updated. Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ

    They are conducting door to door searches today, (as well as air searches via helicopter?) Here is a link:
    New Glasgow News ~ Police conducting door-to-door search for information on Kirwan
    Published on October 21, 2011 ~ Staff ~ The News
    Quote:
    New Glasgow Police are going door-to-door in the north end of the town as well as locations throughout Pictou County…
    End of Quote

    Also, I have been working on a timeline of sorts. I divided it into two parts. The first part, (which I have completed, I think), is for everything but the searches. The second part will be for the searches only, (this part is not quite up-to-date yet.)

    I have it set up so that I can add it in small parts, with each part containing not more than three links. (In order to keep myself out of moderation.) :mrgreen:

    I was very careful to keep it rumour free, and I have media links for eveything. Only one ‘fact’ is linked to the New Glasgow News Blog–everything else is the ‘real’ New Glasgow Newspaper, or CBC, CTV and a few others.

    It is written out in essay format, with the links being added as ‘hyperlinks’. It’s an interesting read, (well, I think anyway), and it’s could be convenient to have it altogether.

    I won’t start adding it, though, until you say you don’t mind.

  246. Nan11~~I keep all the threads open so carry on with any info. I see by my stat counter that there are still many people from the Maritimes and across Canada who come in here to read. We must try and keep this case out front. I do not want it to go cold. I think it is great what you are doing.

  247. nan11 says:

    Amber’s Timeline ~~ With Links Included.

    Amber Kirwan seemingly vanished in the early morning hours of October 9, 2011. She had turned 19 years old in August of 2011.

    Amber grew up in the Lourdes area and graduated from Northumberland Regional High School in 2010. Amber worked part-time at Proudfoot’s Home Hardware in New Glasgow, Nova Scotia, and was enrolled at the community college.

    Four months ago, Amber had moved in with her boyfriend of three and a half years20 year old, Mason Campbell. Together, they shared an apartment in the Pictou Landing area.

  248. nan11 says:

    When Amber was last seen, she was wearing black leggings, a black & blue shirt, dark sweater, and black flats for shoes. She is 5’1” tall, and weighs approximately 130 pounds. Amber has brown hair and hazel eyes. She has two tattoos—a dragonfly on her back, and a star on her right foot.

  249. nan11 says:

    On October 8, 2011, Amber Kirwan either took a cab and went straight to Dooly’s, (as per her boyfriend, Mason Campbell); or took a cab and went to visit friends, (as per Maggie Chickness),–later deciding to accompany them to Dooly’s as part of their group.

    It was reported that Mason Campbell had planned to join his girlfriend, Amber, at Dooly’s that night, but, according to a statement by him, was unable to. No further explanation was given.

    In the early morning hours of Sunday, October 9, 2011, between 1:30 a.m. and 1:45 a.m. (Atlantic Time,) Amber Kirwan lingered outside Dooly’s with the same group of friends she had arrived with. A picture of her talking on a cell phone [to her boyfriend] has been released by law enforcement.

  250. nan11 says:

    Through media reports, we learn that after calling her boyfriend, Mason, she told her friends that she was leaving to meet him at Big Al’s Convenience store. Big Al’s had closed at 11:00 p.m. Saturday evening. Her friends told her they would walk up with her and catch their cab from there, but she told them not to worry. She thought she would be fine.

    She was last seen on a surveillance tape>surveillance video, walking alone, towards Big Al’s.

  251. nan11 says:

    Amber did not have her purse or cell phone with her at the bar that night. She had only a few pieces of identification in her pocket. It is unclear whether she had left her cell phone at her home, or whether she had left it at the home of one of her friends.

  252. nan11 says:

    The reason Mason Campbell, Amber’s boyfriend, decided to pick her up at Big Al’s that night, he explained, was that he did not want to drive all the way into town because his car inspection and insurance were due, and he wasn’t supposed to drive after midnight. Besides, he had had a couple of drinks, and he was tired.

    It was reported that after Amber had left for Big Al’s, her group of friends continued to stand outside Dooly’s. One of them received a text message from Amber’s boyfriend, Mason, asking her if she had seen Amber. We learn that in the message, Mason Campbell, said Amber wasn’t at Big Al’s when he and at least one unnamed person arrived to pick her up.

  253. nan11 says:

    Mason said it had taken him eight minutes to arrive at Big Al’s. He said the second he got to the convenience store and realized Amber wasn’t there, he knew ‘something was up.’

    In that moment, Amber’s friend, Maggie Chickness, (still at Dooly’s), said she thought that Amber had probably decided to go somewhere else. She was next contacted by Mason Campbell sometime Sunday morning—saying Amber had never returned to her Pictou Landing home.

    Amber Kirwan was reported missing by her parents shortly after 5:00 p.m. (Atlantic Time) on Sunday, October 10, 2011.

    Amber’s disappearance was termed “completely out of character”, by Const. Ken MacDonald, spokesperson of the New Glasgow Police Service.

  254. nan11 says:

    Mason Campbell has advised that he is personally following up leads pertaining to Amber’s disappearance, as well as trying to recruit help. Also, he stated that he has personally searched all locations the search and rescue teams covered; and has taken it upon himself to contact everyone around the area.

    Prior to Amber being officially reported missing, a false Facebook profile appeared entitled New Glasgow Police Services. Const. MacDonald warned it is not official and that the department will be investigating. Some questionable statements about Amber and her disappearance were made on the page.

  255. nan11 says:

    On Wednesday, October 12, 2011, police confirmed that they had questioned Mason Campbell, Amber’s boyfriend. Const. Ken MacDonald said that this was a typical thing to do. Those who last saw her and who are close to her–or any missing person–would always questioned, he concluded.

  256. nan11 says:

    In an interview with the CBC News, Mason Campbell stated that he understood he is considered a person of interest in Amber’s disappearance. Mason stated that he is having trouble remembering what he had done from the time Amber went missing until the next day, when he started searching. So far, he has only been able to pick out bits and pieces of his activity during that time period. However, he feels he has been ‘completely honest’—‘for the most part’. He added that Amber would get upset if he had something else to do besides hang out with her.

    On Thursday, October 13, 2011, Amber’s parents issue an e-mail begging the public to NOT give up on their daughter.

  257. nan11 says:

    On Friday, October 14, 2011, Sherry Blinkhorn raised a $5,000.00 reward for information leading to Amber’s whereabouts.

  258. nan11 says:

    Mariea Leil-Browser, who is best friend’s with Mason Campbell’s mother, began sending out posters and more posters; and previously advised that she had organized volunteers to start collecting donations for both Mason Campbell, and the Kirwan family—to help with expenses. Amber’s family have been home praying for their daughter, and Mason has been out trying to find her—‘searching around.’ The donations, which are in the thousands, are going into an account at TD Canada Trust. (During the last few days, however, there has been no more mention of any part of the money collected going toward Mason Campbell—only Amber’s family. I do not know if this has been an official change or just an omission of his name in news articles.)

  259. nan11 says:

    On Sunday, October 16, 2011, law enforcement seized Mason Campbell’s car, keys, and cell phone. A warrant had been issued. While this has neither been confirmed nor denied by law enforcement; Mrs. Eva Campbell, Mason’s mother, advised the media that this was, indeed, so. She added that not only was her son not alone in the vehicle during the early morning hours of October 9, 2011—but that there were people at the apartment that Mason and Amber shared while he and an unnamed associate went to Big Al’s in response to Amber’s telephone call.

  260. nan11 says:

    As of today, beautiful 19 year old Amber Kirwan remains missing. Her boyfriend, Mason Campbell, says he wasn’t prepared for a situation like this. He feels he should have tried harder to skim up and down that road. Mason’s mother has advised that Mason is distraught.

  261. Nan11~~you have done a good job of summarizing this case and putting in the timelines. That will make it much easier for the readers who come in here. I am going to check my stat counter to see if folks are still interested in this case. We don’t want the flame to go out and people start to forget the name, Amber Kirwan. I know that is your goal, Nan11, and it is very much appreciated.

    I will let you know how the stats are doing…brb…

  262. Nan11 ~~here are Today’s stats so far…..

    Title Views
    Amber Kirwan, N.S. girl missing 254
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    Total views of posts on your blog 695

  263. nan11 says:

    Snoops: This link should open to a picture. It might take it a minute to load and come into focus, (at least it does on my old square box.) If you look right straight at it, you should see a stop sign, with some power lines going down to the ground.

    According to the people at WebSleuth’s this is where they found the shoe, (if it was a shoe, but I do think it was.) Just scroll up to your [picture] comment of October 19, 2011 at 3:28 pm and you can see the ‘line’ coming down to the ground.

    I thought it was closer to Dooly’s, by the brick wall. But I think they have convinced me.

    You know, I’ve spent a fair amount of time ‘walking’ that route. I think that’s where they got her, right there. That’s a one way street, so any vehicle traffic would have to come up behind her. I’m not so sure a vehicle was involved, though. Someone could have been hiding in those bushes. Someone who knew she would be walking that way.

    It seems to me that it would have been someone very familiar with the area. It’s appears to be the ‘best’ spot to make a ‘grab’. If you use that wheel at the top right, you can turn it all around and take a look–just like a ship’s steering wheel. If she would have made it around the corner, I think she would have been safe; or if ‘something’ would have happened a little sooner, there would have been a big chance that someone from the Elk’s Lodge would have had a good view. I’d say it was well thought out.

    It’s about half-way between Dooly’s and Big Al’s. You can ‘walk’ back and forth with the arrows, too.

    http://g.co/maps/mytch

    I’m just praying that they checked those woods thoroughly. I can’t stop thinking of sweet Caylee lying there 10 feet from the road. At first they said they searched that area, too. 😦

    It’s amazing how many people still drop in, but it’s nice to see all your regular’s back talking about Baby Lisa.

    I’m going to light a candle and pray for Amber.

  264. Nan11~~I checked out your map and then looked at the pic that I posted of them picking up the shoe. It was just a few feet from that stop sign. She would probably have been hauled into a vehicle and lost her shoe trying to struggle. Then, of course, the shoe may have been planted there a couple days later. I thought someone said that they had searched all along that road and didn’t find anything. During a struggle, if a vehicle was involved, you would think that the shoe would have ended up closer to the pavement.

  265. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Yep, but here we are–a picture of evidence that we have miraculously been allowed to vew and that many now believe ‘may’ have been planted; a boyfriend that can’t quite remember ‘all the little pieces’ of the evening; unconfirmed mention of ‘unnamed’ male persons accompanying boyfriend that evening; media reports of ‘articles’ of clothing being found ‘in other areas that were searched’, (but no pictures of that, of course)…..

    And the best–a ‘still’ of Amber talking on the phone, and a video of her leaving Dooly’s.
    Quote from NG News Article:
    She is spotted walking near Spears Boarding House before she walks out of the camera’s range. Police say the time stamp on the video, which reads 12:50 a.m., is incorrect and believe the footage was shot between 1:30 and 1:45 a.m. on Oct. 9.
    End of Quote

    Okay, fine. I can understand a ‘time stamp’ being wrong. I’m trusting that they can verify that. However, why release the photo of Amber talking on the phone separate from the video? They have most certainly, (at the least), cut a frame or two out, imo. If we assume the picture of Amber on the phone is just prior to the video of Amber handing the phone back to someone–then why cut out anything? (There is enough difference that the ‘crowd’ has somewhat dispersed. I know that can happen quickly, but still…)

    So, I’m going to assume that there is something or someone in those missing frames that the ‘powers-that-be’ do not want the public to see. (Rhyme unintentional.)

    Fine, I can accept that. However, is this just more protection being offered to the mysterious ‘unnamed’ individuals who accompanied the boyfriend that night, (as per statements from the boyfriend’s mother released in media articles?)

    Or is this intended to help find just barely turned 19 year old Amber Kirwan. Because that’s what I care about!

    If you go to about the 1:10 minute mark of this ATV video, you can see what I mean. They have various ‘still’ shots of Amber (shoes are both quite clearly on), talking on the phone that they seem to ‘run’ in sequence, and then they allow the beginning of the video to play again. Notice the difference in the size of the crowd in the background.
    CTV Atlantic ~ Police release surveillance video of missing teen

    Here is the YouTube video link–just in case anyone wants to watch it again. This does not contain the ‘pictures’ of Amber talking on the cell phone–it starts with her handing it back, with the crowd well thinned.
    YouTube: Amber In Front of Dooly’s, Early Morning Hours of October 9, 2011

    Here is a link to a picture of the ‘star tattoo’ on Amber’s foot. It’s so moving–but I think that’s why she wore those little ‘ballerina flats’ that night. They were cut so low that they probably showed her tattoo.

    The ‘cut’ of her shoes may be why it looks as if she has at least one foot bare as she walks away.
    Amber’s ‘Star Tattoo’

    I also think the ‘blue’ in the top she wore that night may have matched some of the shades of blue in her tattoo. I don’t know why, but I find that so touching.

    Oh, Amber. My prayers are with you wherever you are.

  266. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Someone went to all the trouble to make a voice over of the surveillance video of Amber.

    I’m not sure if I’m right about this, but it seems to me that they want to draw attention to the car that rounds the corner. There are lots of rumours about who this car belongs to; however, even if we were sure whose car it is, we would still not know who was driving it.

    Also, iirc from the radio interview I heard with Const. MacDonald–he said they were ‘aware of all the cars and had talked to the owners’. So, I really don’t think this is the info they are looking for–but, still, I guess you never know.

    Surveillance Video with Voice-Over of Amber Kirwan

  267. Kathy Horne says:

    My thoughts and prayers are with Amber and her family,,,replaying this scene, I am almost convinced you can see someone behind the telephone pole after Amber crosses the street..you can see the shadow before the car turns and it is almost as though Amber quickly acknowledges them…maybe..just maybe she passed off her shoe..or something..to plan an “abduction” to escape whatever danger may have been in her current life? i am hoping this is the case… if not, it could be the cab dirver, the car that turns, or the police; and/or someone that took her from the other side of the bushes? ….she seems intent on something before she leaves?..maybe…my best hope and prayers for the beautiful girl…

  268. nan11 says:

    Snoops: We have these two seemingly conflicting stories. See links below–One, (re: Mason): “Amber took a cab to Dooly’s.” Two, (re: Maggie) “Amber was visiting ‘with friends’ and moved on to Dooly’s with a ‘group’.”

    And we also have Maggie’s statement that Amber had forgotten to bring her cell phone to Dooly’s, (but she never revealed where Amber had left her cell phone)–also linked below.

    I heard a ‘rumour’ that, in its way, clears this up. The ‘rumour’ is–the ‘pre-Dooly’s party took place at the apartment of Amber and Mason. Suppose this is correct–it really clears up all these issues. For example, if we suppose everyone was parting at Amber’s apartment, then we could assume that Amber left her phone home; and that Amber and a ‘group’ took a cab from her apartment in Pictou Landing to Dooly’s.

    Now, we also know that Mason had planned to join her…{snipped} The ‘rumour’ of the whereabouts of the party makes that statement more credible, as well. Also if Amber was expecting him to join her, she probably thought that she had no need to bring her own cell phone, and may have phoned him to see where in the heck he was, as much as to tell he that she wanted to go home.

    Regarding the rest of Mason’s statement that he “was unable to” join Amber–well, there is a whole slew of rumours about what exactly caused his unavailability, and where exactly he was. I better not repeat them, though. 😐

    http://www.ngnews.ca/News/Local/2011-10-10/article-2773021/Amber-Kirwan-still-missing—UPDATE%3A-Police-widen-search/1
    Quote:
    He [Campbell] said Kirwan took a cab into Dooly’s and he had planned to join her, but was unable to.
    End of Quote

    http://www.ngnews.ca/News/Local/2011-10-11/article-2774215/Boyfriend-questioned-in-Kirwans-disappearance/1
    Quote:
    Kirwan had been visiting with friends earlier in the evening before a group of them had moved onto Doolys, said Chickness…{snipped}
    End of Quote

    http://www.ngnews.ca/News/Local/2011-10-11/article-2774215/Boyfriend-questioned-in-Kirwans-disappearance/1
    said Chickness and added Kirwan had forgotten to take her cell phone to the bar

    Anyway, prayers for Amber–tonight and every night. Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ

  269. Kathy Horne~~welcome to my blog. It seemed that Amber really hurried down the street as if someone was already waiting for her. She did not want to keep Mason waiting too long so wasted no time going to Big Al’s to avoid any friction??

    I often wonder what Amber’s current relationship was like with Mason. Did she share any confidences with any of her close girlfriends? Mason said that he did not accompany Amber to Dooly’s that night because he had other things to do. We learned that one of those other things happened to be drinking with his buddy/buddies.

  270. nan11 says:

    Kathy: You make a very compelling point. Sometimes people do want to escape their lives–it’s not unheard of, that’s for sure. If that’s the case, I hope she at least gets word to her mother.

    I’ve watched the video so many times now that I see shadows, too. It could be the poor quality of it, though; or ….

    Sometimes I think that car stopped and she willingly got in–but I notice in that last YouTube video (the one with the voice-over)–that it looks like the car drove past her.

    I don’t know what to make of it, really. I don’t believe she made it as far as Big Al’s, but I would like very much to know if Mason showed up on any video from there.

    Thank you for commenting. I think I’ll try to hold onto your idea for awhile. It’ll make it easier to sleep.

  271. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is a link for an article from the ‘New Glasgow News.’ They seem to be wanting to clarify the presence of the police car in the area that night.

    New Glasgow News ~ Cops in car saw nothing
    Published on October 23, 2011 ~ Jennifer Vardy Little
    Quote:
    Const. Ken MacDonald confirmed Saturday that a white vehicle seen in the surveillance video from Dooly’s released last week was a New Glasgow Police cruiser.
    {snipped}
    That night, MacDonald said, the police vehicle followed the same path through the lights, but looped back on Provost Street. Kirwan was headed towards Big Al’s, where she was supposed to meet her boyfriend. She never showed up.

    End of Quote

    Google map showing possible ‘loop’.
    http://g.co/maps/hk3ym

    I’m not sure if I’ve got the ‘loop’ right on the above map link. I had to click on ‘walk’–it seems that a left turn might not be allowed at Archimedes St. and Provost/North Provost St. It’s the only loop I could see, though, without the police car driving by Big Al’s. What strikes me is that he may have driven right past her when she was very near the stop sign (where rumour has it her shoe was found, or a ‘black object.’)

    Either the vehicle in the video that is turning right on Archimedes St. did stop and Amber did get in willingly; or the cruiser had just drove past when another vehicle came up behind him.

    The timing had to have been just perfect. Which seems so unlikely, but, still, I guess it could happen.

    We have the ‘rumour’ of the shoe found at the stop sign (and a picture giving some credibility to the ‘rumour’). Then we have the ‘rumour’ of the shoe being ‘planted’ because the area was previously searched.

    The mindset of a person who would ‘plant a shoe’ is hard for me to contemplate. Was it Amber’s shoe that was ‘planted’?–(this could indicate a very chilling scenario; unless she ‘planted’ it herself); or was it a shoe that ‘looked like Amber’s shoe’ that was ‘planted’–(this would be a very cruel joke and would indicate inside information by whoever did it.)

    I don’t suppose there is any hope that the police car had a dash cam? If so, it would be very interesting to see the footage of that.

    This is another quote from the same article linked above. It made me chuckle. Heaven forbid they release any info on this side of the border–never mind every bit.
    Quote
    “We can’t prematurely release anything, but the video didn’t show too much,” he said. “We had to look for evidence of value – it’s not like OJ Simpson when you release every bit of evidence you have. Once it was determined by the investigators there was nothing of value, from a police media relations perspective, we decided to release it.”
    End of Quote

  272. nan11 says:

    I should have added that on the Google map, I placed ‘Marker A’ at Dooly’s (the police car was right there at the lights as per the video; ‘Marker B’ is the location of the stop sign on Archimedes Street, where it was ‘rumoured’ that Amber’s shoe was found. ‘Markers C & D’ just complete the ‘loop’ the the police car may have made.

    For convenience, I’ll add the link again, (I’ve made it small, also).
    http://g.co/maps/5mv46

  273. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Me again–dropping in with a few links for Amber. There is very little ‘new’–but maybe that tells its own sad story. 😐

    ‘Police briefings’ are scheduled for today, it seems.
    New Glasgow News ‘Update’
    Updated ~Monday, Oct. 24, 9:23 a.m.
    Quote:
    Const. Ken MacDonald of the New Glasgow Police Service said police will have their briefings today to determine their next course of action, but he doesn’t know if any new searches will be planned for today.
    End of Quote

    The ‘video’ of Amber leaving Dooly’s has failed to spark any new leads, (at least, so far.)
    East Coast News ~ Two Weeks Later, Still No Sign Of Missing New Glasgow Woman
    Monday 24th October 2011
    Quote:
    Police have now been searching for a missing 19-year old New Glasgow woman for more than two weeks. Amber Kirwan was last seen leaving Dooly’s in downtown New Glasgow early on 9 October. A video of Kirwan leaving the establishment that night has been released by police, but it has failed to spark any new developments in the missing person’s case. An R-C-M-P helicopter aided in the search over the weekend, crisscrossing the skies over the county, and police have been going door-to-door, canvassing neighbourhoods. Anyone with any information that may be relevant is asked to contact New Glasgow Police or Crime Stoppers.
    End of Quote

    I’m surprised at the following write-up from The Chronicle Herald. It’s the first they have had on Amber for about a week, so it’s good to see their interest; however, I noticed they state that the ‘time stamp’ for the photo is 12:50 a.m. The police have advised that this is incorrect by about 50 minutes. So, who should we believe? LOL One more interesting little tidbit–the police confirm the cell phone did not belong to Amber but will not confirm to whom it belonged.
    Now, why won’t they confirm the ownership of that cell phone? (I have, of course, heard the ‘rumours’ of who the owner is and know from where they come.)
    Police release video of missing woman leaving bar
    October 21, 2011 – 4:38pm ~ By AARON BESWICK Truro Bureau
    Quote:
    A still photo from a video camera time stamped for 12:50 a.m. shows Kirwan speaking on a cellphone. Const. Ken Macdonald of the New Glasgow police confirmed the cell phone was not her own, but declined to say who it belonged to.
    End of Quote

  274. nan11 says:

    Snoops: At last, we finally have some confirmation that Amber never made it as far as Big Al’s. (I’m disappointed that they didn’t ask if Mason was ‘shopping’ at Big Al’s just before closing–at 11:00 p.m.)

    We also now know–the boyfriend’s car was there for ‘approximately one minute and 40 seconds.’ We don’t know what time or who was driving the boyfriend’s car.

    In previous statements, Mason has said that ‘he tried calling the number Amber had called from’. A friend stated that ‘Mason texted her’ regarding Amber’s whereabouts. Mason said: “no one saw her there.”

    One minute and 40 seconds–that gives Mason enough time to pull in, make a call or send a text message, be informed that Amber wasn’t safely with her friends, and pull out again. Question is–where did he go and was he driving?

    ATV Atlantic VIDEO: Watch CTV News With Steve Murphy ~ Go To About 2:54 Minutes In

    CTV Atlantic Write-Up ~ Owner of Big Al’s says Kirwan doesn’t appear on video
    Date: Monday Oct. 24, 2011 4:28 PM ET
    Quote:
    CTV News spoke with storeowner Al Sutherland on Monday and he says there are three video cameras outside the store, located just a little over 200 metres from Dooly’s.

    He says his store closed at 11 p.m. the night Kirwan disappeared, but the cameras were still rolling. However, Kirwan doesn’t appear on any of the videos from that night.

    “The only thing we’ve seen on the camera is the boyfriend’s car where he was in our parking lot,” says Sutherland. “He was here for approximately one minute and forty seconds. And then he left.”

    “There was no sign of her at all on the camera. None whatsoever.”
    End of Quote

  275. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Me again, with something else from the above link that I forgot to mention:
    Quote:
    But with the distance between the pool hall and Big Al’s being roughly 200 metres – or, barely a two-minute walk at a steady pace – what could have happened in the short amount of time it would have taken Kirwan to reach the store?
    End of Quote

    I don’t want to say they are wrong with their time estimate; however, even the Google map shows the walking distance to be 4 minutes. I would think that’s a closer estimate–actually I would give it 5 minutes, even at a steady pace.

    That’s just me, I guess. {shrug}

  276. nan11 says:

    Snoops: First, the link for my write up in my comment of 7:03 p.m. now contains the proper video with it–so you don’t have to fuss with that other video link.

    I’ll repost it here, because I want to make another comment on it:
    CTV Atlantic: (Write-Up and Video) Owner of Big Al’s says Kirwan doesn’t appear on video
    Quote:
    The search for a missing Pictou County teen has entered its third week, and New Glasgow Police say the release of surveillance video which shows her on the night she disappeared has generated some new leads.
    End of Quote
    I specifically wanted to mention this because earlier I had posted a link with a short article stating that no new leads had been generated by the release of the video. That article was issued this morning–so, I guess, after the big ‘pow-wow’ of the law enforcement officers today, something might have come up.

    Gosh, I hope so. Prayers for Amber.

  277. Nan11~~ I would like to know the exact time that Mason was in the parking lot at Big Al’s. I also would like to know the exact time that Amber started to walk towards Big Al’s. I agree with you that it is more than a 2 minute walk. Are they measuring the road way or as a crow flies?

    So when Amber did not show up ( If Mason only waited for just over a minute, it shows he lacks patience) in which direction did Mason travel when he left Al’s? Did he pick Amber up at the corner by that stop sign? Why are they keeping the identity of the person who was allegedly with Mason a secret?

  278. nan11 says:

    Snoops: There is, of course, a lot of rumours going around; but here is a quote from the New Glasgow News on Friday that she was last spotted by the ‘Spears Boarding House’. I did a Goggle map, and you can click on the CTV Atlantic link for a more current look at it.

    New Glasgow News ~ Police release video; seek reports of suspicious activity night woman disappeared
    Published on October 21, 2011
    Quote from NG News Article:
    She is spotted walking near Spears Boarding House before she walks out of the camera’s range. Police say the time stamp on the video, which reads 12:50 a.m., is incorrect and believe the footage was shot between 1:30 and 1:45 a.m. on Oct. 9.
    End of Quote

    Google Map ~ Spears Boarding House
    http://g.co/maps/p77v4

    Also at 1:29 minutes in at the link below, you can see a more current picture of ‘Spears Boarding House.’ And, I believe at about the 1:44 minute mark, you can see very near the area where the ‘black object’, (possibly a shoe), was found.
    CTV Atlantic ~ Owner of Big Al’s says Kirwan doesn’t appear on video
    Date: Monday Oct. 24, 2011 4:28 PM ET

  279. nan11 says:

    Snoops: You have hit the nail right on the head–as usual. There are so many rumours going around about those very questions, but no answers.

    Someone over on the ‘rumour thread’ (lol) commented that ‘one of the girls’ mentioned on her Facebook page that Mason left Big Al’s and went to the “Legion” parking lot to have a better view of the direction Amber was coming from.

    See what you think when you look at this map. A is ‘Spears Boarding House’–Amber’s last known location as per New Glasgow News; Bis ‘Big Al’s’; and C is the ‘Legion’.
    http://g.co/maps/cqeb7

    The ‘locals’ say the road has changed since the Google pictures were taken, but that much to make the view of Amber walking towards Big Al’s clear from the Legion parking lot? I guess I’m missing something because I don’t see it, at all.

    Here is another interesting thing–Mason said in an interview that it took him eight minutes to get to Big Al’s. (He made no offer to confirm where he was coming from.) I did read in a news article, (but it would take me a little bit to find it), that if he were coming from his Pictou Landing apartment–a 10 to 15 minute estimate would be about right. Now, regardless of where he was coming from–let’s take his 8 minute guesstimate–Amber should have reached Big Al’s quite a bit before he did.

    But we now know, she did not. She was not seen on any video from Big Al’s.

    Now, remember–we don’t know who was driving. Mason’s mother told the media that there was someone in the vehicle with him. (I’m not certain right now, but I don’t believe she commented on whether or not Mason was driving.)

    If we knew for sure that he was spotted buying something at Big Al’s before the store closed at 11:00 p.m., we could be someone confident to say he was ‘around’ town long before 1:30.

    There are a lot of locals saying that it is true that Mason was not alone that night–many say they know the person he was with. (A fair number even say there were two males with him.) I don’t really know what to make of that, though.

  280. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I’ve been meaning to add these links now for about the last three comments, and I keep forgetting about them. They are from the CBC. I don’t think there is anything new in them, (at least there isn’t in the write-up)–maybe the video is better.

    CBC News (Write-up) ~ Police follow new tips on Kirwan
    Posted: Oct 24, 2011 4:06 PM AT ~ Last Updated: Oct 24, 2011 3:32 PM AT

    (As I can’t view this), I think the piece on Amber starts somewhere around the 10 minute mark.
    CBC TV News (VIDEO)

  281. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I just wanted to let you that the scanner is back up. Here is the warning that they have at the top of the site:

    Status: Cops are back on. Remember, scanners are not illegal but repeating what you hear IS. You can be convicted under Section 9(a) of the Radio Communications Act punishable by $25,000 fine. Keep things to yourself. Especially on Facebook!

    Pictou County Public Safety Live Audio Feed

    So, I guess we can listen but not repeat what we hear.

  282. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I just realized this–http://g.co/maps/cqeb7. When you go into street view from Ping “C”, which is the Legion parking lot where it is rumoured that Mason may have driven to after leaving Big Al’s, you can see right across to Archimedes St. (By looking through the spaces in between the building.)

    He could have had a very clear view of the Spears Boarding House. (You can zoom right in on it from the map.) It’s interesting to me that he had such a good view of the building which LE has indicated is the location of where Amber was last seen.

    Depending on what time his vehicle showed up on the surveillance video at Big Al’s (and whether or not, he was driving or passed-out or in a black-out–this is all ‘rumour’ territory), he may be in the clear–especially if he has someone to alibi him.

    One last thing–I think law enforcement really has a lot more ‘answers’ than they are revealing.

    Prayers for sweet Amber–she needs to come home. Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ

  283. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I just can’t get away from this case tonight. lol (I hope you don’t mind.)

    I forgot to mention earlier–I think we were right about Amber having both shoes on that night. ‘One of her friends’ posted to this effect on her Facebook account. (I ‘heard’ this by rumour.)

    And, the last thing for tonight, I promise. If you go to the 00:46 seconds mark of this video linked below (ATV Atlantic from tonight), you will be able to freeze the shot of the surveillance video from Big Al’s. It could be from that night–I don’t think there is specific confirmation of this. You can see a man walking and a parked vehicle. It looks like ‘the man’ may be a little bit older than the Amber and her friends, though.
    ATV Atlantic Video: Owner of Big Al’s says Kirwan doesn’t appear on video
    Possibly law enforcement has already been in contact with him–or possibly they allowed this little clip to be shown hoping that he will now be reminded and come forward. Interesting.

  284. Nan11~~I took another stroll from Dooly’s to Big Al’s and it seemed shorter than when I did it before. The speed at which Amber left Dooly’s, she would have made it to Big Al’s in about 3 minutes. I would imagine that LE has questioned everyone at that boarding house. It is handy to where the shoe was found and that stop sign. Hmmm

    It is sad that we are hearing so many conflicting stories and seem to be going around in circles. I hope LE and the RCMP have more substantial information. It is easy to get an alibi…especially if you threaten them…nuff said.

  285. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is a link for Amber. Apparently, they are trying to ‘track down’ some of the patrons at Dooly’s that night, whether they were inside or outside.

    New Glasgow News ~ Police say no searches planned today for missing teen, Amber Kirwan
    UPDATED: Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2:57 p.m. ~ Published on October 25, 2011
    Quote:
    Police are still trying to track down some of the people who were at Dooly’s the night missing teen Amber Kirwan disappeared.

    Investigators are looking for people who may have been outside or inside the establishment and had seen Kirwan, 19, on Oct. 9.

    It’s the search for those witnesses that prompted police to release a surveillance video of Kirwan’s last steps that night, said Const. Ken MacDonald.
    End of Quote

  286. nan11 says:

    Snoops: The following are just a few ‘things’ that I find interesting:

    Google Map of area at 1:43 minutes in of ATV Atlantic Video:
    http://g.co/maps/fxumm

    Take a look and see if you would agree that the Goggle map is the same area as in the CTV Atlantic video (1:43 minutes in) from last night. The stop sign is gone and the angle is slightly different, but I think it is the same.

    Now, keep in mind that this is the area where the ‘black item’ (possibly a shoe) was found. Also, I think the ‘house’ in the distance of both the video and the Google map is “Spears Boarding House”–where Amber was last seen before she walked out of the camera’s range.

    Okay, now you can keep the first two links open because in my next comment, I’ll continue on with another frame from the CTV video, (and a matching Google map.) Then I’ll make my point, I promise.

  287. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Part 2 of comment began at 7:22 p.m.

    The Path ~ Google Map of area at 1:45 and 1:46 minutes in of ATV Atlantic Video:
    http://g.co/maps/x9zed

    So, the interesting thing about this ‘path’ is not only is it very near the area where the ‘black object’ was purported to be found; but the path, itself, goes right through to Alexander St. Take a look at this Google map link for a better explanation.
    http://g.co/maps/b9t8y
    “A” is the area where the shoe was found. “C” is the are where the ‘path’ in the news broadcast may lead to–Alexander St. (B is not important–I just placed it down there so I could orient myself when I was on Alexander St.)

    I guess this was a lot of work for nothing but a ‘supposition’. Anyway, I noted that CTV’s Dan MacIntosh said this are was ‘well’ searched by the RCMP. I do believe that.

    It’s just such a ‘perfect’ area for a crime. I mean, it’s just out of reach of the cams from Big Al’s and Dooly’s. There is a convenient path leading to a two way street.

    How many people would know about the angles and ranges of the cams? How many people are familiar with the path?

    Sweet Amber, my prayers are with you. Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ

  288. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I really doubt that this ‘shooting’ has anything to do with Amber’s case, but it may be worth mentioning. Earlier in the case, they did do some searches in the Trenton area. IIRC, though, those searches mostly focused on the old Tibbett’s Paint Factory on Glass St. (in Trenton), which suffered a fire, set by vandals–within a few days of the search. Now we have a shooting. What next?

    Shooting in Trenton
    Published on October 25, 2011
    Quote
    Police are investigating a shooting that occurred on Mechanic Street in Trenton shortly after 8 p.m. tonight.

    New Glasgow Police and RCMP officers were on scene and a dog was brought in.

    The condition of the person shot is unknown at this time.
    End of Quote

  289. Nan11~ ~ check out the Scanner but do not post anything about what you hear…. You can read the condition of the victim on the Scanner….it is in red.

  290. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Well, here is a couple of interesting write-ups from the New Glasgow News.

    Mr. Campbell’s cheerleaders–his mother and the collector of the charity for Amber– are out, once again, ahead of law enforcement, moo.
    New Glasgow News ~ Kirwan’s boyfriend speaks out; investigation into disappearance continues
    Published on October 25, 2011
    Quote
    “I don’t believe I am guilty of anything in any way, shape or form,” he [Mason Campbell said. “The cops aren’t looking at me.”
    {snipped}
    “Mason was with someone all night and I met the fellow who was with him and he has already spoken to the police,” [Mariea] Leil Bowser said.

    [Mariea] Leil Bowser said Campbell’s car, which was seized by police on Oct. 16, was returned to him this past Sunday.

    Const. Ken MacDonald of the New Glasgow Police Service said police could not comment on Campbell’s statement.
    End of Quote
    Regarding the bolding by me–she (as in Mariea Leil Bowser) met this fellow? Okay then, and the significance of her meeting this fellow is? It almost sounds to me like she has authority and sway with the law enforcement officers, or at least thinks she does, moo.

    As if the first article wasn’t bad enough, now we’ve got this. I’m trying to remain calm. Perhaps I am not reading it correctly; but I do believe Const. MacDonald is saying that they are looking for individuals who may have seen Amber in any type of criminal activity? Surely, I am misuderstanding. Surely.
    New Glasgow News ~ Police await forensic report
    Published on October 25, 2011
    Quote:
    Const. Ken MacDonald says that items of interest, including clothing, were sent to forensic identification services in Ottawa for analysis.

    “We’re waiting for the report on that, we’re expecting it any day,” MacDonald said Tuesday.

    But, he said, while police can identify many of the people standing outside Dooly’s who were captured in the surveillance video, they don’t know who may have been inside at the time. Police are looking for those individuals as well – particularly if they may have noticed Kirwan at the pool hall during the course of the evening.

    “We’re looking for people who may have seen her before, during, or outside,” he said. “In any type of criminal activity, somebody knows something. And we need their information.”
    End of Quote

  291. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is an update on the shooting from the New Glasgow News. Sounds like they have got their hands good and full now.

    Police confirm man dead
    Published on October 25, 2011 ~ Adam MacInnis
    Quote:
    TRENTON – One man is dead after a shooting on Mechanic Street in Trenton Tuesday night.

    New Glasgow Police Constable Ken MacDonald has confirmed that officers are investigation a possible homicide in the Mechanic Street area with the assistance of RCMP, New Glasgow Police Major Crime Unit and New Glasgow Police Forensic Unit.

    Online reports were circulating that police were looking for a person wearing a dark hoodie who left the scene and was believed to be armed.
    End of Quote

    (They are warning people again on the scanner site not to discuss anything on Facebook. Good luck to them there–they might as well close it down and leave it down. They will never control that Facebook group.)

  292. Nan11~~there has been a lot of action on the scanner. I guess we don’t need to go across the border to find crime. We seem to have enough of it happening around here. The Amber case is going in so many directions and it is getting hard to keep up with it all. Is it just my thinking or do we seem to have more crime as Halloween approaches?

  293. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Wowzers! Read this–(I am not surprised, given the size and crime rate of New Glasgow, and the length of time between the two incidents. It was my very first thought when I heard about this ‘shooting’.):

    New Glasgow News ~ Police confirm man dead; homicide investigation underway
    Sub-Heading: Police search vehicles heading to and from Trenton Wednesday morning.
    Kevin Bent – photo | Published on October 25, 2011
    Quote:
    UPDATE: Wednesday, Oct. 26, 12:12 p.m. –

    TRENTON – Police are now saying they are not ruling out a connection between the Trenton homicide Tuesday night and the case of missing Pictou County teen Amber Kirwan.

    Const. Ken MacDonald had originally indicated there was no connection between the two cases, but now says that it’s too early to rule that out.

    “We’re only in the preliminary stages of our investigation at this time and we’re still reviewing all evidence at this point,” MacDonald said.

    Kirwan has not been seen since Oct. 9.
    End of Quote

  294. Nan11~~good grief, what next? Did someone take the law into their own hands? I have a feeling when this all comes out, we will find out it was drug related and that includes Amber going missing and her possible death.

  295. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Check out the first link in my comment of 12:07 a.m., October 26, 2011. They have updated to add a picture of Mr. Campbell–carefully cut and choosen I would guess, panning just enough to include Amber’s mother clearly supporting him.

    I do believe that the timing of his arrival at Big Al’s (which has not been officially confirmed)would indicate he had no involvement in Amber’s disappearance. However, considering the direction the New Glasgow News is heading, they will soon have the tables turned with Mason being the victim and Amber being the ‘culprit.’

    I think it is time that Amber’s parents spoke out in support of their beautiful, missing daughter. Mason Campbell ‘waited’ one minute and 40 seconds for his girlfriend of three years and his common-law wife of ‘a little over’ four months. One minute and 40 seconds! He believes he is not guilty? Really–he can only believe he is not guilty? Why?

    Beautiful, missing Amber–where are you? Who took you? Who thought so little about you that they strew the clothing and shoes you had carefully selected about like rubbish? I know you are the victim–I know you deserve to be found. I will pray for you forever.

    My Opinion Only.

  296. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Exactly. As always, I think you have hit the nail right fairly on the head.

  297. nan11 says:

    Snoops: My goodness, the details of that shooting are horrific. “Four children ranging in age from four to nine were inside at the time.”
    CBC News ~ Police investigate homicide in Trenton
    Posted: Oct 26, 2011 6:33 AM AT ~ Last Updated: Oct 26, 2011 11:49 AM AT
    Quote:
    The father-in-law of the victim told CBC News that four children ranging in age from four to nine were inside at the time.

    He said one of his granddaughters called him just after 8 p.m. screaming that her father had been shot and was lying outside.
    End of Quote

  298. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I’m back with yet another Google map. Just for the sake of discussion, I marked the locations for: “A” representing Dooly’s; “B” representing the ‘fire’ on Glass St.; “C” representing the ‘shooting’ on Mechanic St.; and “D” representing the Pictou Landing Road–the area reported to be where Mason and Amber lived. (I am only approximating the area where they lived–I ‘picked’ an area near Hillside by a bridge, but I am unsure if it is the ‘Big Gut Bridge’.)

    http://g.co/maps/fcgbm

    Interestingly enough, it is all on a relatively ‘straight’ line. Possibly, imho, begining with the pre-Dooly’s party, continuing to Dooly’s and back to the location of the pre-Dooly’s party.

  299. Nan11~~I am more convinced than ever that this is drug related. I wonder if Amber was abducted to settle a debt. These people can play really dirty. I know we have a lot more crime around Dartmouth now and it seems the norm to hear of another shooting. New Glasgow police and the RCMP have their work cut out for them. The people around those areas must be getting nervous wondering who will next. This is surprising to me as I thought Pictou County was relatively free of crime.

  300. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is a link with a short video from CTV Atlantic. It says they even have the schools on lock down and kept the kids in for recess.
    CTV Atlantic (Video and Write-up) ~ Trenton schools on lockdown after fatal shooting
    Date: Wednesday Oct. 26, 2011 12:38 PM ET
    Quote:
    Schools in Trenton are on lockdown after a fatal shooting occurred in the small town Tuesday night.
    {snipped}
    Neighbours called 911 around 8 p.m. Tuesday after they heard shots fired outside of 22 Mechanic Street. The victim lived at 26 Mechanic Street.

    CTV News spoke with Darrell Buell, the uncle of the victim’s wife. Buell says the victim was walking downtown to buy a pack of cigarettes, but he never returned.

    Buell says the man’s wife was inside their home when she heard two shots, and when she looked out the window she saw her husband lying on the road. The couple has four children under the age of 10, and they were all home at the time of the shooting.

    Buell says he has no idea why someone would want to kill his niece’s husband, and so far police have no leads in the case.
    End of Quote

    Oh, Snoops. This has gotten very serious–I hope the Mounties get some help in there, and get this cleared up. I agree that it was a beautiful, quiet little are relatively free of serious crime. That, however, does not appear to be the case at the moment.

  301. nan11 says:

    Snoops: The Chronicle Herald have released the man’s name, but I won’t repeat it–just in case. This is really sad, too. 😦

    They say there is no indication that it was a ‘drive-by shooting’; sooo, would that mean someone was hiding in the bushes, waiting for him to come out?


    The Chronicle Herald ~ Man fatally shot in Trenton

    Sub-Heading: Victim, husband and father of four, gunned down near home
    October 26, 2011 – 10:31am By MICHAEL GORMAN Truro Bureau and PATRICIA BROOKS ARENBURG Staff Reporter
    Quote:
    ****** is married with four children — three girls and a boy ranging in age from four to nine. He and his wife just bought the Mechanic Street house about six months ago.

    “They were going to raise their family there and that didn’t last too long,” Buell said.

    ****** was “certainly all family” and liked to drive his kids to school in the morning and pick them up in the afternoon, Buell said. The victim was a friendly guy who was happy to sit in Tim Horton’s and chat with anyone, Buell said.

    “I don’t really know why any of this would happen,” he said.

    There is no indication that this was a drive-by shooting and police don’t know yet if anyone else was injured, Const. Ken MacDonald, of New Glasgow Police, said this morning.
    End of Quote

  302. Nan11 ~~when you have someone shot like this man was, it could be a revenge shooting or even someone trying to throw the Amber case in another direction. Hopefully, they don’t have some maniac in that area trying to pick off anyone at random. They will investigate this dead man’s background to see if he has been associated with any seedy characters in that area. Why shoot an innocent man who was just out buying a pack of cigs? There has to be a motive behind it.

    The dead man drove his kids to school and picked them up as well. I wonder what he worked at if he had employment.

  303. nan11 says:

    Snoops: I wondered about that, too–haven’t seen any rumours or anything. The only thing I can think of is maybe a seasonal worker or someone on the night shift.

    Here is at least a short update on Amber.
    New Glasgow News ~ Police say no searches planned today for missing teen, Amber Kirwan
    Published on October 25, 2011
    Quote:
    UPDATED: Tuesday, Oct. 25, 2:57 p.m. – Police are still trying to track down some of the people who were at Dooly’s the night missing teen Amber Kirwan disappeared.

    Investigators are looking for people who may have been outside or inside the establishment and had seen Kirwan, 19, on Oct. 9.

    It’s the search for those witnesses that prompted police to release a surveillance video of Kirwan’s last steps that night, said Const. Ken MacDonald.
    End of Quote

    And here is something from the Pictou Advocate that combines the two cases and gives an interesting little tidbit. Keep in mind the Trenton Connector was one of the areas first searched for Amber.
    Trenton homicide update
    Posted on October 26, 2011 | Debbi Harvie
    Quote:
    Mechanic Street and High Street in Trenton were closed and the various police departments were conducting check points in the area, mainly near the Trenton Connector for information.
    End of Quote

  304. Kevin H says:

    has anyone else noticed that the time in the still photo of Amber is shown but not in the video tape, this kind of tells me the tape has been doctored for us to see her leaving but since it comes from the same camera this bothers me. If there asking for the publics help then show the whole video.
    I pray for Ambers safe return

  305. nan11 says:

    Snoops: My latest map. I couldn’t resist–I had to mark the Trenton Connector.

    What are the odds that an area the size of Pictou County (population as per the 2001 Census ~ 46,965), would have two major crimes in a little more than a two week time span; and not be connected–especially considering the similarity of the areas ‘searched’.

    Google Map:
    http://g.co/maps/dfav6
    A=Dooly’s
    B=Fire on Glass St. At Old Tibbett’s Paint Factory–Searched A Few Days Prior To The Fire In Connection With Amber’s Disappearance
    C=Shooting On Mechanic St.
    D=Trenton Connector–Area Searched In Connection With Both Amber’s Disappearance and Shooting
    E=Pictou Landing Road–Area Where Amber and Mason Lived; and Searched Extensively In Her Disappearance (Hillside and Big Gut Bridge).

  306. Kevin Home~~I never noticed the time displayed in the still shot is not in the video. That is a great project for our leading sleuth, Nan11. She has an eagle eye when it comes to those things. That was very observant of you, Kevin. Thanks for that info.

  307. Nan11~~I noticed the scanner is busy tonight. It has even crossed my mind that Amber is being held somewhere against her will until some sort of payment is made… I would rather not say here what kind of payment I think that may be.

  308. nan11 says:

    Kevin: Yes, that bothers me too. The last link is an old one from CTV where they run the still(s)–and they actually have more than one–and immediately go to the video. It is very interesting–watch how the crowd suddenly ‘thins’. Some time must have elasped. The only reason I can think of is that there is someone in that ‘missing’ portion of video that they don’t want us, the public, to see. 😦

    http://www.ngnews.ca/News/Local/2011-10-21/article-2784026/Police-release-video%3B-seek-reports-of-suspicious-activity-night-woman-disappeared/1
    Quote:
    She is spotted walking near Spears Boarding House before she walks out of the camera’s range. Police say the time stamp on the video, which reads 12:50 a.m., is incorrect and believe the footage was shot between 1:30 and 1:45 a.m. on Oct. 9.
    End of Quote

    Watch this video starting at about 1:09 minutes in. After showing the stills, they immediately continue on with the video.
    http://atlantic.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20111021/kirwan_video_111021/20111021/?hub=AtlanticHome
    Obviously, something been cut.

  309. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Yikes! Sorry for those ugly links. I was in a hurry–now, of course, I regret it. 😆

  310. Kevin H says:

    Well I think she made the call at 12:50 and then went back inside until it was time to leave. If you look at the crowd it is not the same as the video and the angle on the video is closer so the public can`t see the time posted in the upper right hand corner. I also believe there is some one behind the pole on the other side of the street because if you watch the video closely you can see her pause there and then she or whoever continues on up the street.

  311. nan11 says:

    Kevin: I think we might be missing the 15 minutes between the 1:30 a.m. and 1:45 a.m times.

    I’ll take their word on the camera at Dooly’s being wrong, for now, anyways. 😉

    I’d like to know who was driving (and who all was inside), the car that is turning up Archimedes Street just as Amber enters the ‘shaded’ area in front of Spears Boarding House.

  312. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Now they are back to saying that there is no connection between the shooting death and Amber’s disappearance.
    CTV Atlantic ~ No connection between shooting and Kirwan case: police
    Date: Thursday Oct. 27, 2011 11:00 AM ET
    Quote:
    New Glasgow Police say they have ruled out a connection between Amber Kirwan’s disappearance and a fatal shooting in Trenton.
    End of Quote

  313. Kathy Horne says:

    thank you so much for this site.; it is very professional …every day i think about Amber and my prayers are with her and her family…i was so disheartened when on CTV news just now they said, (to the effect), “the two crimes are not related” (re: the murder inTrenton and Amber’s case)…. i was so hoping that somehow Amber’s wasn’t considered a “crime” yet…that somehow it might be a “missing person” investigation still..I know that this is unrealistic…especially with the time elapsed…but there was Elizabeth Smart… I just pray that some how, some way she is still o.k,….do they know it’s a “crime”, because that is how it is presented on the news…:(

  314. nan11 says:

    Kathy: I do believe the police are still calling it a missing person’s investigation. I think we can hang onto that until they say otherwise.

    It doesn’t look really positive; but, still, there is hope that she is alive. They haven’t found her yet, after all.

  315. Kathy Horne says:

    nan11: disturbing implications about the dad in Trenton: i surmise that he was a hero who stopped an abduction years ago and now he is found shot; supposedly, the suspect in that foiled abduction has just been released from jail?..none of this is confirmed..but very worrisome… my heart goes out to the dad and his family…. i never fall for rumours…but this is too much….?

  316. Hi Kathy Horne~~thank you for the nice compliment about this site. We do our best to keep it professional even tho we are just a few armchair wanna be detectives.

    New Glasgow Police and the RCMP will call this a missing persons case until they find substantial evidence to prove it points to a homicide. Pieces of clothing were sent off to Ottawa for, I assume, DNA testing. I am surprised we do not have a crime lab here in the Maritimes. If any of that clothing comes back as being Ambers, then I expect NG Police will hold a news conference. The public do have a right to know if there is some deranged maniac on the loose ready to snatch up young women.

    I heard that the shooting on Mechanic St, Trenton, was not connected to the Amber case, then I heard it may be and now it is not. I am sure that the police have fully investigated the background of the man who was shot to see if this shooting was retaliation or revenge of some sort.

    There is always a small glimmer of hope that Amber may be alive somewhere but as each day passes, that hope gets dimmer. I just don’t want this case to go cold.

  317. Karhy~~you posted your comment as I was typing. If that is true about the man that was shot, it is terrible. I know when criminals are sent off to prison, they will hold a grudge for years and get their revenge as soon as they are released.

  318. nan11 says:

    Kathy: I ‘peeked’ in at that ‘site’ and saw that, too. I’d sure like to see that in print (via media), and have a link for it.

    It is very frustrating because some reporter somewhere, should be able to look into that an write a very good article on it.

    I don’t know if that kind of thing is not done because local reporters are not allowed; or they feel there would be no interest.

    The police have now wafted back to the side that the homicide is not connected to Amber’s disappearance; so, if there is any truth in that ‘rumour’–why can’t we see a decent article done on it in The Chronicle Herald or another newspaper. It wouldn’t even hurt the CTV to explore it a little.

    JMOO

  319. Nan11~~I am like you and a bit skeptical when it comes to reading at that site. I tried googling it and came up with another case that happened in Florida. It is off topic but may be somewhat similar to Amber…

    http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/24063588/ns/today-today_people/t/murdered-womans-husband-botched-call/

  320. Kathy H says:

    i agree… it should all be transparent… there may be no connection whatsoever….but it leaves all of us who are hoping and praying for Amber at a loss… If this poor fellow who died in Trenton did stop an abduction years ago (and admittedly this is only based on unconfirmed facts), why is this not made known?… i am troubled…. there may be no connection…but…wait a minute…”a folied abduction…then the prisoner is let go…then an unsolved abduction and then the one who stopped the original abduction (10 or so years ago) killled?…..” in a really, really small town?…. help…

  321. Kathy~~ if it is true that the murder on Mechanic St is connected to a botched abduction 10 years ago, maybe someone wanted to prove that their next abduction would not be botched. I would certainly look very close at these two situations….very, very closely!!

  322. nan11 says:

    Snoops and Kathy: Add this little tidbit to the mix: the ‘botched abduction’ happened on the street in front of the home where the ‘hero(s) lived? Sound familiar?

    They are now arguing that it may have been 20 years ago, not 10–but most of them do seem to think at least some of this is true.

    (Another poster chimed in and said she thought it was his father–so it really is hard to say what is truth and what is fiction.)

  323. nan11 says:

    Snoops: OMG That poor woman. So sad. All her pleas went unanswered, and they found her in a shallow grave.

  324. Nan11~~I went to that other site and read a few comments and left. There are just too many rumors floating about. I’d like to see some facts about that botched abduction and not people trying to recollect different versions of it. Surely it must have been newsworthy back then, if it was around ten years ago.

  325. Nan11~~IIRC, I believe the trial of that abducter in Florida was on InSession and I was so involved with the Anthony case, I only watched bits of it.

  326. worried239 says:

    Just wondering how can they rule it out for sure the two aren’t connected? how do they know that the one that took Amber (if someone did) isn’t the same person that shot this guy??

  327. nan11 says:

    Worried239: Guess what? They have changed their minds again!!! Now they are saying that their is no “indication” that the two cases are connected–but they are not ruling out the possibility. Well, I think that is a good idea. jmhoo

    Police seek witnesses: A number of tips have been received after fatal shooting
    Published on October 27, 2011
    Quote:
    “At this time – and we’re still in the preliminary stages of our investigation – there is no indication that the disappearance of Amber Kirwan and this investigation are related,” said RCMP spokesperson Sgt. Brigdit Leger. But at the same time police aren’t ruling out the possibility, she said.
    End of Quote

    The following write-up is mostly about Amber’s case; however, it’s strikes me as sad. Now, they are asking hunters to keep they eyes opened for anything ‘out of the ordinary.’ {sigh} I guess they can’t search everywhere.
    Police ask hunters to note anything suspicious, out of place
    Published on October 27, 2011
    Quote:
    With deer hunting season opening today, police are requesting that hunters be extra aware of their surroundings and keep the current investigations into a missing county teen and a homicide in Trenton in mind.
    {snipped}
    But, he adds, despite Tuesday’s homicide, work on the Kirwan case has not slowed down.
    “That’s why we called in the RCMP to take the lead in the Trenton homicide,” MacDonald said. “We’ve had unusual circumstances in the last few weeks – it’s been extraordinary for the region – but as a result of the homicide in Trenton, there’s been no scaling back of resources, that’s why New Glasgow has asked for additional resources from the RCMP and why we’ve taken these measures.”

    End of Quote

  328. Okey Dokey nice people… In order for the police to rule out that there is no connection between the shooting on Mechanic St and Amber going missing, they have to know the identity of both the shooter and the one who took Amber. Of course, if they knew the shooter was somewhere in Timbucktoo and too far away from New Glasgow when Amber disappeared, they could rule him/her out by just using logic. A good rule of thumb-don’t believe everything you hear reported by a media outlet and for goodness sake, don’t believe everything you read on some blog, even this one as I have a tendency to make things up. J/k, we do our best here to try and get the facts straight. Rumors are just that, unsubstantiated gossip.

  329. nan11 says:

    I hear ya, Snoops. However, the rumours have been very titillating these last few days. Oh, for some ‘Sunshine Laws’! I believe we have a right to know more, but I guess I’m a minority. If we had more ‘facts’, even released via the press, there would be less rumours, iykwim. But anyway, I’ll shut-up. (And I’m not talking about anything that would thwart the police investigation.) 😆

    I have a short blurb to link from the New Glasgow News–there are no new developments in either case. {sigh}
    Police say no new developments in Kirwan or Phalen cases
    Published on October 28, 2011
    Quote:
    NEW GLASGOW – Police say there are no new developments in the case of missing teenager Amber Kirwan, who has not been seen since Oct. 9, or in the case of the murder of Edward Phalen, who was killed outside his Trenton home on Oct. 25. The investigation into both cases are continuing.
    End of Quote

    This may be off topic, but I want to link Mr. Phalen’s obituary because it contains a small picture of him. It give his ‘name’ a ‘face’ to me. So very sad and unnecessary. This may have been avoided if they could have solved Amber’s case sooner. (Oh, oh,–there I go starting again.)
    Obituary ~ William Edward “Ed” Phalen
    (March 4, 1967 – October 25, 2011)

    And, last but not necessarily least, I will add this–a link to Rick’s Rants. This guy runs a very careful, tightly written blog; but he does drop a few tidbits now and then. Now, I do not want to start up the debate about the: no relation between the cases; yes relation between the cases again–so, please overlook that part. See my quote for the tidbit–the police received a tip from ‘Mechanic Street’ (where Mr. Phalen was shot dead), concerning Amber’s disappearance–‘a couple of weeks’ before the shooting.
    [Professional Blog] Rick’s Rants Friday October 28th/2011
    Quote:
    A tip to police in the Kirwin case led them to Mechanic Street a couple of weeks ago, but what if anything came from it isn’t being revealed.
    End of Quote
    Interesting, no? I did look through the older articles on Amber trying to find confirmation on this (because I do believe that a search for Amber or a search for information about Amber’s whereabouts being conducted on Mechanic St., was reported in the press); however, I could not find it. If I stumble across it later, I will most definitely add it.

  330. Nan11~~ re the scanner, there was an incident at Dooly’s last nite that I cannot discuss here. Maybe I will shoot you off an email later. For a small town, it seems to be a busy place in those parts. I hope and pray some real evidence will surface in these two cases.

  331. Cheese4972 says:

    Hello there 🙂 I have been following this blog for the last few weeks. I am from a town in Nova Scotia same size as New Glasgow, now living in Edmonton. Having a teenaged daughter and living in this city scares me so I’ve always talked about how much safer living in a small NS town was…

    When I read about Mr. Phalen that was shot in Trenton and that police were saying it wasn’t connected, then saying they couldn’t rule it out…it reminded me of everything that was going on when my cousin dissappeared 11 years ago. He went missing after leaving his home in Portapique, NS on Sept 8th, 2000. On the 9th there was a double murder in Digby, (3 1/2 hours from Truro). The 10th they found my cousin’s truck outside of Windsor, (1 1/2 hours from Truro). The police then said the same thing as what they are saying now…that the cases are not connected, but can’t rule it out for certain. 10 years later it was found out they were.

    Your blog has been a good source of information for those of us who are now far away but still concerned about things from home. I appreciate how the difference between rumoured and confirmed is stressed.

    Hoping that news of Amber is found soon…I can’t imagine what her parents must be going through. I’m a basket case if my kids are 1/2 hour late until they get home…my thoughts are with them.

  332. nan11 says:

    Cheese 4972: Thanks so much for stopping in. I’m very sorry to hear about your cousin.

    The similarities between the two cases do, indeed, appear to be striking. I’ll take that as an omen that eventually they will get this solved–even if it takes them years. 😦

    There is that funny thing about small towns, isn’t there? For years, sometimes, things are sleepy and safe; and warm and comforting–then all he!! can break loose and foundations get badly shifted.

    This has gotten very serious; and so very sad.

  333. Cheese4972 says:

    I certainly hope that this does not take years. New information after so long is like opening up the wound all over again and finding out what happened to him so long after has been just as hard on his mother (who is 89 now) as it was when he went missing. He was just at the wrong place at wrong time. His body has still never been recovered.

    I think that the warm and comforting feeling of a small town is sometimes what leads us to let our guard down and take chances that we shouldn’t…nothing will ever happen…it’s New Glasgow…it’s Trenton… :S I had the heck scared out of me one night when I was only 18, walking home alone in Amherst at 2 am…a car with a guy driving (hockey equipment proped against back window visible) drove by me, 10 times in 20 minutes. I was shaking and in tears by the time I got home. Never felt comfortable walking alone at night again, no matter where.

    I’m sure that’s why Amber left alone…it was just up the street a few minutes…small town, nothing ever happens. I just don’t believe that no one saw anything. After the bar closes, there’s always people around outside chatting or driving around, walking home or waiting for a taxi etc. Someone had to have been watching and waiting for her.

  334. Cheese4972 ~~first off, welcome to my blog. I see my co-host has already responded to your comment. I grew up in a small town in New Brunswick where everyone knew the other person’s business. We felt so secure and safe yet I had a couple of incidents that gave me quite a scare. One was a stranger who tried to lure me into his car and the other was a young man, well known in the community, who literally tried to force me behind our one theatre. Both times, by the grace of God, I escaped but it still haunts me to this very day. I have a feeling that whoever took Amber was known to her.

  335. Cheese4972 says:

    I agree. In a small town like that, she might not have known the person to talk to them, but would probably have at least known who the person was or recognized them…it’s a lot easier to be taken by surprise if you don’t feel threatened. I was at a party in a friends garage when I was almost 18 (shhh…yes underage 😉 ) and went into the house to my friend’s bedroom to get more music. I was followed quietly by a guy I’d just met that night. I thought he’d come to help and didn’t feel threatened until he pushed me onto the bed, pinning me and pushing my legs apart. Luckily my friend had noticed me being followed and came to see what was going on. I just can’t see how no one was around. 1:30 am isn’t really that quiet of a time that close to the bar after closing. Maybe someone she knew offered her a drive to wait with her for her boyfriend to come. Wouldn’t most of us get into a car with someone we knew rather than waiting alone in the dark? I also thought it could have even been someone asking her if she had a cigarette…anything could have made her stop for a second and that is all it would take.

  336. nan11 says:

    Cheese4972: Yep, I think we would–with someone we knew.

    There possibly was a very short period of time when she walked past the Spears Boarding House until she reached the stop sign that she would have been our of camera range from either Dooly’s or Big Al’s. It’s hard to say what could have happened in that very, very short period of time–but time enough for a car to stop and ???

    She never showed up on the camera’s from Big Al’s, and their camera’s pan out to the street. (They had closed at 11:00 p.m. but surveillance camera’s were running.) So, it’s definite that she didn’t just ‘keep walking’ toward her home in Pictou Landing.

    I know you have been following this case, so you have probably seen all these links; but, it’s a good review. I spend a lot of time reviewing–there is not much ‘new’ information being released right now. 😐

    CTV Atlantic ~ At about 1:10 minutes in ~ Video shows the stills of Amber on someone’s cell phone, then cuts to last footage of her walking towards Big Al’s.

    Full YouTube Video ~ Amber is walking from Dooly’s and clearly heading towards Big Al’s. She appears to be walking with a purpose. Video has voice-over and a small circle highlighting Amber until she ‘disappears’ from view, in front of Spears Boarding House.

    CTV Atlantic ~ At about 1:29 minutes in ~ Video has good shots of the area just above the Spears Boarding House. You can see the ‘power lines’ where her shoe or shoes may have been found and you can see a path at about (1:45 minutes in) which leads to the next street over (a two way street.) You can tell by the ‘pole with the white paint” that as the camera panes to the path it is just to the left of the area where the photo of her shoe, or what looked like a shoe, was found. (Scroll way up to comment of October 19, 2011 at 3:28 p.m. for an enlarged photo of the ‘find’.)

    It is my understanding that had she made it beyond this area, the camera’s from Big Al’s would have picked her up–that has not been confirmed, though.

    (I have two more links I want to add, but I’ll do them in my next comment so I don’t go into moderation.)

  337. nan11 says:

    Part Two of comment I started at 9:10 p.m., October 28, 2011. (I apologize for the typos in my comment 😳 )

    Large photo of ‘Amber’s Wall’ and surrounding area. ~ This is a very recent photo of the area. It’s actaully been taken to show the candles that Amber’s friends light for her, but it captures the area where she was last seen as well. If you look just a little bit over to the right middle of the picture, you will see the sign for Spears Boarding House. According to the released video (and statements from law enforcement), Amber can last be seen in this area. The big wood-framed white house on the left is Elk’s Lodge and just beyond that is a low red brick building (which is now a used-clothing store). Big Al’s Convenience store abuts this building.

    If you look to the left in the picture, you will see a blue building. This is the Legion. It is rumoured that her boyfriend drove to this parking lot after he left Big Al’s so that he could watch for her. It is very open and he certainly had a great view; interesting to keep in mind, however, is the fact that these are one-way streets. If this is true, I do believe she was ‘gone’ by the time he arrived. “If this is true”, is the big question.

    That picture also allows you to ‘click’ on it to zoom into areas of interest.

    Now lastly, I will add a link to a Google map. I take a ‘tour’ at least once a day–often in the evening as I pray. Sometimes I light a candle, too.
    http://g.co/maps/8v2rt
    I hope this takes you right to street view. You click the down pointing arrow to walk straight to Big Al’s. By turning the lever on the wheel in the top left corner, you can get a better look at the homes and businesses, and the ‘wooded area.’

  338. Kevin H says:

    What I find hard to believe is that there is somebody that knows something, in a community the size of New Glasgow its like everybody knows everybody and I think some one is scared. I believe the police are doing a sting just like the Karrisa Boudreau case ( RIP ) just for the fact there is to many unknowns in this case. The police won`t tell what they have but keep asking for the publics assitance hoping to find the one thing they need in Ambers disapperence. If they truly don`t have anything then they should tell the public and then just maybe something will happen or come forward.

  339. nan11 says:

    Kevin: That is hard to believe–I always wonder if the locals are just talking amongst themselves; or, heaven forbid–are they calling her boyfriend with ‘tips’?

    Tons of the early flyers were made up with his contact information on them. I find this very interesting in light of all the ‘messages’ law enforcement have put forth lately stressing that people only contact them or Crime Stoppers with info.

    I keep praying that they have something. How can these dang criminal outsmart the RCMP, a major crime lab, and the local police force? I know they do, though. I’m praying: ‘not this time.’ Please, ‘not this time’.

  340. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is an update from CTV Atlantic. Nothing new, just talking about the police asking ‘hunters’ to keep an eye out. Still, it keeps her name and face out there.

    CTV Atlantic (Video with Dan MacIntosh reporting) ~ Hunters asked to keep eye out for clues in Kirwan case
    Quote:
    “Most hunters hunt the same area every year, and most likely they would notice any unusual changes in the environment,” says Const. Ken MacDonald, a spokesman with New Glasgow Police.

    And local hunters say they are taking the request seriously.

    “If it was my daughter, you know, I’d want to find her,” says hunter Jean Paul Theriault. “I think everybody should get into it too.”

    “There’s a pretty good chance a hunter’s going to find her, if she is in the woods,” adds Donald Sinclair, who has been hunting deer for several decades.
    End of Quote

    Hmmm. They are still calling it a missing person’s case, right? Maybe they mean held captive in a cabin, or maybe not. 😦

    Prayers for you, sweet Amber. Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ

  341. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here is a song someone wrote and recorded for Amber. It can’t really help to find her, but I appreciate the sentiment, I guess.

    YouTube ~ A song for Amber

  342. Kevin H~ ~I agree that someone knows something and are too frightened or just doesn’t want to get involved in the event they may be implicated in Amber’s disappearance. Alcholol loosens the lips and someone will talk. I agree that the New Glasgow PD and/or the RCMP know more than they are divulging to us. Hopefully, we will get that Breaking News like we did in the Boudreau girl’s murder. I suspected her mother all along in that case and I have my own opinions about the Amber case.

  343. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Well, they seem to insist on lumping these two major crimes together. 😐

    In any event, there has been no ‘new’ developments overnight. Heck, there hasn’t been any ‘new’ developments in Amber’s case in days–unless, of course, we are allowed to consider the shooting. Just saying’. Silence is golden, I guess. {sigh}
    New Glasgow News ~ No new developments in Kirwan or Phalen cases
    Published on October 29, 2011
    Quote:
    Police say there have been no new developments overnight in the case of a missing county teen and a homicide in Trenton.

    Amber Kirwan, 19, has been missing since Oct. 9. Edward Phalen, 44, was shot to death outside his Mechanic Street home on Oct. 25.

    Police are still investigating both cases. Anyone with information is asked to contact police or Crimestoppers.
    End of Quote

  344. nan11 says:

    Snoops: (Or Anyone): I jotted down some of the things that I think have not been answered regarding Amber’s disappearance. Can you think of anything I missed, or do you feel some of these things have been answered?

    In order to compile the list, I ‘accepted’ what has been reported by the media. Possibly some things are not wholly truthful, but it’s all we’ve got–sad, though it might be.

    ☀ What is the ’missing time span’ between the stills of Amber talking on the cell phone in front of Dooly’s, and Amber leaving the front of Dooly’s, heading toward Big Al’s?

    ☀ Why do the very last seconds of the video appear to have been cut? Or do they?

    ☀ Whose cell phone did Amber borrow to make the call to Mason? Why would a simple thing like this not be confirmed?

    ☀ Where was Mason when Amber called him?

    ☀ What time did Mason and friend get to Big Al’s?

    ☀ Who was driving the vehicle that night?

    ☀ Where did Mason and friend go after waiting one minute and forty seconds?

    ☀ What time did Mason text Maggie, asking Maggie if Amber had left yet?

    ☀ What time did Maggie respond?

    ☀ When did Mason return to his Pictou Landing apartment? Or did he?

    ☀ What time during the next morning did Mason again text Maggie stating that Amber had never returned home?

    ☀ What time did Maggie get Mason’s second message?

    ☀ Why can’t Mason remember the ‘bits and pieces’ of this time period?

    ☀ Why is the name of the person in the vehicle with Mason that night being withheld?

    ☀ Why were the people ‘still at Mason’s apartment’ on the night Mason was to pick-up Amber, plus the unidentified person in the vehicle with Mason; not enough to alibi him? Or has he now been alibied to the satisfaction of the police?

    ☀ What is the basis for the belief that there may be a connection between Amber’s disappearance and the shooting of Ed Phalen?

    ☀ Where is Amber Donna Kirwan?

  345. cali patti says:

    Nan, you are hired, if I were LE you would be my consultant! The questions you put out there seem to be very basic questions that have not been answered. A timeline based on phone calls and videos would be a factual piece of evidence then LE could fill in gaps or not, from what people say or remember. LE could tell if an interview matches their time line. Well done Nan.

  346. cali patti says:

    Question about area, Is it normal for the small towns (up there) to have such good outside camera’s? Mostly not done down here. In the last few years more cameras have went up but still ….!

  347. nan11 says:

    Cali Patti: Why thank you. I would be willing to bet the powers-that-be have all the answers except one–Amber’s location. They are just stinkers and won’t tell us anything. I’m one of the lone voices of discontent over this–most of us feel there could be a risk of spoiling their investigation if they reveal too much information. Ugh!

    Many of us have been groaning over the quality of that video. Maybe we should appreciate it, I suppose. {sigh} At least, we know what direction she went in. We find it quite out of focus.

  348. Kevin H says:

    maybe they are protecting someone and that is why there not telling anybody anything. Correct me if I`m wrong but at one point someone said there was a high profile person involved, well M C is friends with the police chief and deputies son`s , maybe this is the other party that was in the car with him and is more involved than we think.
    This is my opinion

  349. nan11 says:

    Kevin: Please don’t feel you have to answer this if you would prefer not to; however, I am wondering if you personally know that as truth. I am not asking for a link or anything–I will take your word for it.

    I heard rumours to that effect, myself; so, I am just wondering if, in your opinion, it is more than rumour.

    Thanks for dropping in, and expressing your opinion.

  350. Kevin H~~I would never want to think that a police department would take a risk in protecting one of their own. There are just so many rumors floating around and we do not know for a fact that another party was with Mason when he went to pick Amber up. New Glasgow PD and the RCMP have two open investigations, Amber Kirwan and the homicide of Ed Phalen. They play their cards close to the chest and I have every confidence they will solve these two cases. My own gut feeling tells me that when they find the shooter of Phalen, they may kill two birds with one stone and have Amber’s abducter/murderer as well. JMO

  351. Nan11~ ~we posted at the same time. I guess you can see that I believe it was a rumor and not fact. If New Glasgow PD released the info re the other party in the car, it is fact, otherwise it is a rumor that probably originated from that other site. Eva maybe?

  352. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Awww, you are right, of course. That is something that bothers me because it could be fact as well as rumour.

    Maybe your ‘suspicion’ is correct, but she desperately wanted to put a name to that ‘person’ she managed to get the media to report was with him. It was like she just didn’t dare. I just have to ask why.

    I don’t want any trouble, so I’ll be good.

    Sorry, Snoops. Thank you for tolerating me. ✿ܓ

    Sorry, Kevin.

    Lady, you are a nut and that is why I likes ya so much… How come Kevin didn’t get a flower too? LOL ~ SS

  353. Nova Scotia RCMP say the killing of 44-year-old Edward Phalen outside his home in Trenton this week was not a random act of violence.

    However, Sgt. Brigdit Leger wouldn’t elaborate on what led investigators to that conclusion.

    Read more here at source…..

    Trenton shooting not random, RCMP say

  354. nan11 says:

    Snoops: You don’t suppose the ‘rumour’ about the victim having two perfectly aimed gun shot wounds to the head would have anything to do with the powers-that-be deciding it was not a ‘random act of violence’.

    Just sayin’. Maybe.

  355. Nan11~~how did the shooter get two perfectly aimed shots in before Phalen fell to the ground? This is why I think it was a semi-automatic and not a rifle. Maybe rifles are semis too… I cannot see someone being able to take aim from a moving vehicle. It seemed like a sniper act and then a get-a-way so there may have been more than one involved.

    BTW, did the news release that there were 2 perfectly aimed shots fired? I heard they were doing the autopsy here in Halifax. I think ballistics is in Sackville, N.B. or it was the last time I remember.

  356. nan11 says:

    Snoops: You could be right there, Just a second–I found a couple of articles I’ll link.

    Coming right up. 😉

  357. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here are two, sort-of conflicting stories. There is even less confirmed about this case than there is about Amber.

    Now, you might laugh about this–but I think a rifle can be a semi-automatic, too?

    And, these two reports could be why some people are suggesting that there were ‘two’ men in the neighbourhood that night. The people who believe the rifle theory, don’t believe it was the man with the ‘hoodie’

    One more thing, though–aren’t some rifles quickly collapsible?
    New Glasgow News ~ Murder leaves Trenton residents shaken
    Quote:
    Online reports were circulating that police were looking for a person wearing a dark hoodie who left the scene and was believed to be armed.
    End of Quote

    New Glasgow News ~ Residents shaken as murder investigation continues
    Quote:
    The shot, she said, was “really loud.” She believes it sounded like a rifle shot.
    End of Quote

  358. nan11 says:

    Snoops: Here are a couple of links with videos. They don’t give any further details, but they show his house and the hosing of the street, etc.

    It’s just sad. I don’t think I linked them before. I wasn’t really following this case very much. I guess I should keep my eye on it better, though–this could be the only way we hear anything about Amber.
    CTV Atlantic (Video and Write-Up) ~ No connection between shooting and Kirwan case: police

    Prayers for Amber. Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ

  359. nan11 says:

    Snoops: 😳 Sorry. This link is in replacement for 2nd link in comment of 10:00 p.m.

    Global Maritimes (Video and Write-Up) ~ Father of four killed in Trenton, N.S. shooting

  360. nan11 says:

    Snoops:
    They did do the autopsy in Halifax, on Wednesday.
    New Glasgow News ~ Police seek witnesses: A number of tips have been received after fatal shooting
    Quote:
    An autopsy was carried out in Halifax on Wednesday on Phalen, she confirmed, but police can’t disclose any of the results since that is part of the investigation.
    End of Quote

    The poor guy’s funeral is tomorrow.
    William Edward “Ed” Phalen ~ March 4, 1967 – October 25, 2011)
    Quote:
    The family will receive visitors 2-4 and 7-9 p.m. Friday, Oct. 28th in P. & K. MacDonald Funeral Home, New Glasgow. Funeral service will be held 2 p.m. Saturday, Oct. 29th in First United Church with Rev. Dr. J. Kenneth MacLeod officiating.
    End of Quote

    I don’t know about ballistics–I just know that two bullets in the head would require a person to have a good aim, and be a fast and practiced shooter. Our heads are really not that big compared to the rest of us.

    It was a rumour. I stated it as such.

  361. Kevin H says:

    Sometimes things you might hear could lead to a clue, I`m not saying the police are involved but maybe a family member and maybe this is why where not hearing anything. Could you imagine if this rumor is true and the police had to deal with this as well as trying to find Amber. Or is someone trying to throw everybody off track for reasons unknown.
    My daughter was murdered on News Years Eve in 2007 by someone she worked with and his wife, everytime I hear of a missing person it brings back all the memories, I pray for Ambers safe return and hope her family does`nt have to go through what I did . Our lives have been totally destroyed but maybe I might say something that might help in this case. Ihave followed this since day one.

  362. Kevin H~~I am so so sorry to hear about your loss. Yes, it would bring back painful memories to you. I lost my oldest girl due to a brain aneurysm back in Sept of 2007 and I know how hard that was/is. It still hits me like a ton of bricks at the most unexpected times. May I ask how long of a sentence these two people got for the murder? Here is Canada, you can murder and get out in ten years. BTW, my daughter was a prison guard for 20 years so seen all kinds come and go.

  363. FYI~~ For your own privacy, you should not use your real first and last names in blogs. I took out some of the last names and just left an initial. I am the only one who can see your email address and ISP number. They will NEVER be given out by me without your permission.

  364. Sherry says:

    How horrible, Kevin! You have my prayers. It’s not natural to lose a child, let alone that she was murdered! You just can’t move on like one can when its a parent or grandparent. 😦

  365. kevin says:

    They both got life 25 years without parole, My daughter was stalked for about a month before this happened by this co-worker. What bothers me most is that Amber was 19 and this when we start to experience life on our own. They have to keep it on the fore front because its not just the people it happened to but the families as well. Maybe a family member may be the clue or who will open up and talk.
    Amber does`nt deserve this , lets bring her home.

  366. Kevin~~sorry you went into moderation. Your comments will all go through automatic again. I do recall your daughter’s case now. My heart goes out to you and your family. We never get over the loss of a child and for you to lose your precious daughter in such a brutal way is terrible.

  367. kevin says:

    why is it that innocent people become the victims for cowards, they are always willing to do the crime or whatever but not own up to it, Cowards, people who have no life but will ruin the ones that do.
    I believe the police have someone in mind in Ambers case but can`t get enough evidence to make it stick. I now get the impression though that they are waiting for hunters to find her , well that is why we have search teams and who are always willing to give up that time if it will save a life. The time frames in Ambers case are so important.
    I pray for this girl evry night.

  368. kevin says:

    has there been any knew news or rumors

  369. Kevin~~with the inclement weather we are experiencing today in the Maritimes, searching will be difficult. I always felt that whoever abducted Amber may have headed out of the province. They had about a four hour head start before she was reported missing at 5:pm on Sunday evening. When a young woman goes missing, the first thing that LE think of is a run away and until they gather facts then they take it more serious. I just wish New Glasgow PD would hold a press conference and give up some information. The public have a right to know if there is a deranged maniac out there on the loose, especially now with this homicide added to the mixture.

    With the wind gusting up to 100 km/hr, I am hoping our power stays on. We have a combination of rain/snow mixture at the moment but nothing accumulating on the ground.

    Nan11, hope you still have power in your neck of the woods.

  370. nan11 says:

    Kevin: I extend my deepest condolences on the loss of your daughter. I wish there was something more promising to report on Amber; but, really, there is just a little update saying that they have received ‘some’ information from ‘hunters’, but not enough to ‘come to the bottom of it.’

    I would expect if hunters found ‘anything’, a new search would be launched immediately.

    New Glasgow News ~ Police continue investigations
    Published on October 30, 2011
    Quote:
    Police are still investigating both the case of missing person Amber Kirwan and the shooting death of Ed Phalen in Trenton.

    Const. Ken MacDonald said they have been receiving some information from hunters, but as yet have not been able to come to the bottom of the case. They are still appealing to hunters and others to report anything they see.
    End of Quote

    Snoops: Nope, power stayed stable–so far anyway.

    Prayers for you sweet Amber–tonight and always. You deserve to come home. Ƹ̴Ӂ̴Ʒ

  371. Nan11~ ~glad you kept your power. It has been a wild old day. I just hope and pray that if Amber’s remains are in some wooded area, they will be found before we get a lot of snow. The hunters should be out in full force tomorrow as they do not hunt on Sundays unless they changed that law. I just hope that tomorrow nite being Halloween, there will not be more problems.

    I am going to start a new page for Amber as we must keep this case alive. I wish, by some miracle, we could bring Amber home alive.

  372. Paula says:

    I have been following this blog since day 1. I have not felt compelled to reply until I read Kevin’s post. Kevin. The first time I heard of this story I immediately thought of your daughter. I cannot express how sad I am for your loss. I only hope and pray that Amber did not meet the same fate. It was truly horrible about your daughter and I will never forget it as long as I live as it really struck close to home. My thoughts are with your family always.

  373. kevin says:

    thats an excellant idea , we have to be positive

  374. kevin says:

    Thankyou Paula. It is amazing how somethings leave a mark not just on parents and family but on everyone. I will always hope and pray for Ambers return.

  375. me says:

    I have yet to post on here,as i dont own a computer and only have a couple questions..did anyone take notice to the fact the SHOOTING in Springhill was MECHANIC street as well. i am from ng as well and im going to tel you this has me super spooked..last night was plain horrific!!! I guess its coming down to the fact its been 3 weeks for Amber and its only going to be by the grace of god and some miracle that she comes back alive…i pray she does..but really though, the cops need to be giving more info, or do they just not have any..covering for their own? i saw those “rumors ” as well but i doubt it, they are trained to protect and serve the public, its a choice to enter into LE and crooked cops per say are the last thing ng residents have to worry about..whats next? not trusting the cops that respond to an emergency, or an ambulance driver…people people we have to trust sometimes, or what else are we going to do? reject safety or help until the “one who can be trusted” is available..even if it means our lives?? i mean really..some people sure have vivid imaginations..

  376. Me~~I am going to transfer your comments to the thread we are posting on now.. click on the link below…

    https://mainstreamfair.wordpress.com/2011/10/30/we-will-bring-you-home-amber/#comment-14729

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